ON THINGS THAT DON’T MATTER SO MUCH [829b]

Being a bit stuck for subject matter, just thought I’d pass on an observation about a simplistic doctrinal matter.

Perhaps of all the doctrinal subjects, the error which appears the most obvious and easiest to clarify, is still having major acceptance around the churches?

That is the subject of “where do you go when you die”. Traditionally it has been said that you either go to heaven or to hell, but that is just so obviously patently wrong that it is hard to understand why it still has popularity. There are many subjects which present a degree of difficulty to explain, but surely this is not one of them?

The teaching is clearly that when you die you are dead in the ground end of story, until such time as Jesus returns. There is no “soul” that goes floating off to heaven to engage in harp practise with the angels. The body remains in the ground. Jesus was an exception because he was proving the victory over death. There were past examples of ‘being taken up’ but that was also exceptional. There was also the thing about the dead being seen rising from the grave when Jesus was crucified and resurrected, but this cannot be tied to the destination of the general populace when individually they die, and probably lacks any further verification as reliable scripture.

Eastern religions encompass the idea of “reincarnation” where after this life you come back as another person animal object or thing, so they are caught up in the idea that the Spirit wanders off somewhere to begin again. It would be common amongst primitives to believe in the continuation of life as some sort of “spirit”. Even Jesus “became a life giving Spirit”. He was referred to as “The Holy GHOST” because of his life after death.

This seems to be what has happened in the Christian belief because of misunderstanding of what is being said, but mainly because of prevailing views whether they were popular religion or popular superstition that held to an instant transition from life to either heaven or hell.  [Some words for “hell” indicate the grave, not a place of torment].

The term given for death is SLEEP which indicates they are not dead, but are in a transitionary stage between the grave and their resurrection. In fact, they ARE “DEAD” and are so dead that they can be reduced to dust or ashes and smoke and yet still be resurrected because as far as God is concerned, they are NOT dead, so the easiest way to present this is as “sleep”.

Examples of “sleep” can be seen with Stephen and with Lazarus, and the concept of “not being dead even though they are”, with Isaac Jacob etc. “He is not the god of the dead but of the living, for to Him, all live”. [as far as God is concerned they are alive (dead but asleep)]. [Catholicism wanders off into a world of imaginary scenarios where anything is possible, and they cannot be taken seriously with their ideas of purgatory and the bodily assumption of Mary just being two of these.]

[August 27, 2018]

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THE NEW WAY TO KEEP THE LAW, BY THE SPIRIT [1111a]

Amazing! now there is a new way to keep the law, apparently a much better, faster and more efficient way than before. The old way was slow and ponderous and was completely unsuited to the task of producing righteousness. So much so, that it never could achieve that desired result. As a means of producing righteousness, it was a complete flop!

This new way is so efficient that the old way is considered to be redundant, old fashioned, and just plain old. The new way achieves its goals with ease, because it puts aside the problem and introduces the solution directly!

So the new way says to put on the solution in the first place, as a complete gift, and then you will not have to try to overcome all the problems of doing it the old way, and that by yourself. Now the author of this new way is available to come alongside and coach you with all the wonders of this solution as he and it overview your particular circumstances and situation, and then guides you through it all.

The author guarantees the result, and declares that the old way was so bad that it actually created more problems than before it was introduced, being that law could never introduce love, they are two opposites, even though the intention of law may be good. To solve this problem, the author had to enter the very conditions that this law situation had created, and overcome them within himself, so that now He can bring the working plan of this new way to us, now that he himself has satisfied and experienced the demands of the old law way.

Although the laws were good in themselves, being that they represent  the “facts” about righteousness and unrighteousness, they could never actually enable us to achieve that righteousness by ourselves. Because of this, these laws were actually bad for us, they enabled sin to actually kill us and leave us in “inner” death. They exacerbated the situation, and that is why the author completed their demands FOR us, and then rolled up the old plan and committed it to the archives. It was declared to have been a temporary situation until He, the author and architect of the new way had arrived. It made it obvious to us that we could not do it, we could not of ourselves “author”  from within us the means by which to follow these old plans with their inherent complexity and huge demand for resources we did not have access to. It actually depleted us of the resources we thought we had, and proved to us that, of ourselves, we were inadequate to the task. We couldn’t do it.

This new way that the author and architect of life has introduced, is for us to take hold of He Himself, and to be at one with His ability to understand the nature of both the old and the new, being that He Himself had been in both situations, and was intimate in every detail with the task before us. That He is intimate indeed, with each and every one of us, knowing even every hair on our head. Within the intimacy He shares with us, we find that the solution to all our problems lie, even the problem of how unrighteous people such as ourselves, can be made righteous.

In the intimacy of the joining of our spirits, by the invitation of His Spirit to ours to join with Him in life partnership, if we will come to Him and acknowledge our need of the master plan, even our need for Him; He will meet that need and fill you with the Spirit of His life which then freely imparts His righteousness to you as being part of Him. You will be in Him and He will be in you. You will be as one. He has abolished the old way, using it as an example of failure, because of our need for Him, so we might through His Spirit now have success by returning to Him.  He has dealt with our failures, having absorbed them into His own suffering as a Father would for his children. By His Spirit He now brings to us all that is necessary for us to end our journey of despair and begin our journey of love, that eternal journey that has already arrived at its destination in Him, and we with Him.

[A new and living way, that is, His flesh]

THE NEW WAY TO KEEP THE LAW, BY THE SPIRIT [1111]

Amazing! now there is a new way to keep the law, apparently a much better, faster and more efficient way than before. The old way was slow and ponderous and was completely unsuited to the task of producing righteousness. So much so, that it never could achieve that desired result. As a means of producing righteousness, it was a complete flop!

This new way is so efficient that the old way is considered to be redundant, old fashioned, and just plain old. The new way achieves its goals with ease, because it puts aside the problem and introduces the solution directly!

So the new way says to put on the solution in the first place, as a complete gift, and then you will not have to try to overcome all the problems of doing it the old way, and that by yourself. Now the author of this new way is available to come alongside and coach you with all the wonders of this solution as he and it overview your particular circumstances and situation, and then guides you through it all.

The author guarantees the result, and declares that the old way was so bad that it actually created more problems than before it was introduced, being that law could never introduce love, they are two opposites, even though the intention of law may be good. To solve this problem, the author had to enter the very conditions that this law situation had created, and overcome them within himself, so that now He can bring the working plan of this new way to us, now that he himself has satisfied and experienced the demands of the old law way.

Although the laws were good in themselves, being that they represent  the “facts” about righteousness and unrighteousness, they could never actually enable us to achieve that righteousness by ourselves. Because of this, these laws were actually bad for us, they enabled sin to actually kill us and leave us in “inner” death. They exacerbated the situation, and that is why the author completed their demands FOR us, and then rolled up the old plan and committed it to the archives. It was declared to have been a temporary situation until He, the author and architect of the new way had arrived. It made it obvious to us that we could not do it, we could not of ourselves “author”  from within us the means by which to follow these old plans with their inherent complexity and huge demand for resources we did not have access to. It actually depleted us of the resources we thought we had, and proved to us that, of ourselves, we were inadequate to the task. We couldn’t do it.

This new way that the author and architect of life has introduced, is for us to take hold of He Himself, and to be at one with His ability to understand the nature of both the old and the new, being that He Himself had been in both situations, and was intimate in every detail with the task before us. That He is intimate indeed, with each and every one of us, knowing even every hair on our head. Within the intimacy He shares with us, we find that the solution to all our problems lie, even the problem of how unrighteous people such as ourselves, can be made righteous.

In the intimacy of the joining of our spirits, by the invitation of His Spirit to ours to join with Him in life partnership, if we will come to Him and acknowledge our need of the master plan, even our need for Him; He will meet that need and fill you with the Spirit of His life which then freely imparts His righteousness to you as being part of Him. You will be in Him and He will be in you. You will be as one. He has abolished the old way, using it as an example of failure, because of our need for Him, so we might through His Spirit now have success by returning to Him.  He has dealt with our failures, having absorbed them into His own suffering as a Father would for his children. By His Spirit He now brings to us all that is necessary for us to end our journey of despair and begin our journey of love, that eternal journey that has already arrived at its destination in Him, and we with Him.

[A new and living way, that is, His flesh]

IT’S NOT ABOUT RIGHTS AND WRONGS IT’S ABOUT LOVING OR NOT LOVING [969b]

There could never be enough pages to write down that which is wrong against that which is right, never enough rules laws or regulatory obligatory requirements to designate right from wrong. There is one simple way to do that, and it is to ensure that everyone is doing their best to look after the needs and interests of others, regardless of personal interests that might contradict that aim.

“Make love your aim” says scripture. The fundamental basic way of thinking has to undergo change, the very essence of our being has to be in tune with the  essence of being of that ultimate purpose of creation, as given within the nature of the creator himself. To love and be at one with the nature of love, which is His nature, and must also be our nature.

Our nature can only change as we are at one with He Himself, who laid down His life for all so they might acquire Him and His life with Him. It is allegiance to Him and His very essence of being, that which is called Spirit, that is required. That to have His nature we must have His Spirit, His life force, His driving force, to “participate in the divine nature”.

That Spirit was a gift. He promised to return to us and live in us, that He and the Father would be in us. “We will come and make our home with him”, reminiscent of “Let us make man in our own image”. Pentecost demonstrated this reality of the gift of the Spirit to be received by faith. That His characteristics might characterise our own lives, that they may be the reality in which we daily dwell.

Laws rules and regulations are nonsensical considerations when compared with the glory of God and His Son as encapsulated in the Spirit of their very being. Those who continue to push such antiquated notions on people in the light of the gospel of love are continuing to do the work of the enemy.

THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL [1110a]

Having this knowledge, of good and evil, destroys us. We are well aware of the evil that we are or have become. Or that we do even if we don’t want to. We are forced to “live” in the evil, because there is no frame work for us to live in the “good”, or at least there wasn’t until Jesus came and wore the results and consequences of having “lived” in that evil.

Since he lived only in the good, and “lived” in the evil only so He could destroy it, we can now bear the fruit of the knowledge of the good being triumphant and the evil defeated. Our identity by faith being established in HIM, means our previous identity whether willingly or unwillingly is now firmly established towards the good and against the evil.

It means we can DO GOOD, ALL THE TIME. And what was so hard about this? It was because we did not really even have any idea about the extent of our good and evil until firstly the law came, and secondly then Jesus came. Wrongdoing is not defined without law, and grace and love are not defined without Jesus.

Past theology has been lost in many things, one of them being the definition and use of the word “good”. The religious hypocrites have jumped on this and made it out to be a swear word, because they love to quote Jesus words “There is none good but God”, although there are many other examples, and given by Jesus Himself, where a “good man” means exactly that. Similarly the use of the “righteous” man. It means just that, unless where it specifically refers to “self” righteousness.

So being good or righteous was looked on as being impossible, and anyone who even looked like claiming some form of righteousness was likely to be ostracized as blasphemous. They seemed to think that the only righteousness one could have was that which was “imputed” by ‘faith’, but which ‘faith’ meant the belief that it was not real righteousness and you only had it because it was granted through some kind of arrangement which effectively meant that though you were “seen” as righteous, you actually were NOT. Just as they loved to quote man’s heart as being evil, and neglecting to then quote “their hearts were cleansed by faith”.

Similar to the idea that through Jesus, God “saw you” as righteous which by implication infers that you are NOT. That though you are unrighteous, because of Jesus you are now CONSIDERED as righteous. This kind of thinking was accompanied by the sort of theology which said the man in Romans 7 was “saved” even though he had a split personality of doing good with his mind but doing bad with his flesh.

God does not deal in double terms, If He gives you or assigns you righteousness then it is REAL and not imputed, referenced, comparative, inadequate or imitation. The righteousness you have by faith is real, regardless of any supposed possible inferior position, because it is believed by you and has become your reference point for who you are as being connected to who HE is. You have identified with Him and His righteousness and that is REAL. Certainly you may be yet immature and lacking in some practical ways, but as long as you maintain your faith in HIM then you are a partaker of HIS righteousness which means it is ALSO YOURS.

[You are His and He is yours]

THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL [1110]

Having this knowledge, of good and evil, destroys us. We are well aware of the evil that we are or have become. Or that we do even if we don’t want to. We are forced to “live” in the evil, because there is no frame work for us to live in the “good”, or at least there wasn’t until Jesus came and wore the results and consequences of having “lived” in that evil.

Since he lived only in the good, and “lived” in the evil only so He could destroy it, we can now bear the fruit of the knowledge of the good being triumphant and the evil defeated. Our identity by faith being established in HIM, means our previous identity whether willingly or unwillingly is now firmly established towards the good and against the evil.

It means we can DO GOOD, ALL THE TIME. And what was so hard about this? It was because we did not really even have any idea about the extent of our good and evil until firstly the law came, and secondly then Jesus came. Wrongdoing is not defined without law, and grace and love are not defined without Jesus.

Past theology has been lost in many things, one of them being the definition and use of the word “good”. The religious hypocrites have jumped on this and made it out to be a swear word, because they love to quote Jesus words “There is none good but God”, although there are many other examples, and given by Jesus Himself, where a “good man” means exactly that. Similarly the use of the “righteous” man. It means just that, unless where it specifically refers to “self” righteousness.

So being good or righteous was looked on as being impossible, and anyone who even looked like claiming some form of righteousness was likely to be ostracized as blasphemous. They seemed to think that the only righteousness one could have was that which was “imputed” by ‘faith’, but which ‘faith’ meant the belief that it was not real righteousness and you only had it because it was granted through some kind of arrangement which effectively meant that though you were “seen” as righteous, you actually were NOT. Just as they loved to quote man’s heart as being evil, and neglecting to then quote “their hearts were cleansed by faith”.

Similar to the idea that through Jesus, God “saw you” as righteous which by implication infers that you are NOT. That though you are unrighteous, because of Jesus you are now CONSIDERED as righteous. This kind of thinking was accompanied by the sort of theology which said the man in Romans 7 was “saved” even though he had a split personality of doing good with his mind but doing bad with his flesh.

God does not deal in double terms, If He gives you or assigns you righteousness then it is REAL and not imputed, referenced, comparative, inadequate or imitation. The righteousness you have by faith is real regardless of any supposed possible inferior position, because it is believed by you and has become your reference point for who you are as being connected to who HE is. You have identified with Him and His righteousness and that is REAL. Certainly you may be yet immature and lacking in some practical ways, but as long as you maintain your faith in HIM then you are a partaker of HIS righteousness which means it is ALSO YOURS.

[You are His and He is yours]

COMMENTS ON A RECENT SERMON RE HEAVEN GOING [1109a]

Recently a minister stirred the pot by telling his traditional congregation that they and we do not go to heaven, at ANY time. This apparently disturbed some of them into asking him just where then, were their departed loved ones?

It seems to me that he then fudged it a bit by telling them something about God’s time not being like our time or some such. Rather than saying what scripture plainly says, that when people die they end up in the grave “sleeping” until they are woken at the actual resurrection of the dead.

Further sermons could be interesting if this minister keeps moving forward as the Spirit enlightens him. Otherwise, he may be diverted into more, but different, errors.

I will keep you posted.

[“Lazarus sleeps”. “Then He told them plainly, Lazarus is dead, but I go to wake him”]

COMMENTS ON A RECENT SERMON RE HEAVEN GOING [1109]

Recently a minister stirred the pot by telling his traditional congregation that they and we do not go to heaven, at ANY time. This apparently disturbed some of them into asking him just where then, were their departed loved ones?

It seems to me that he then fudged it a bit by telling them something about God’s time not being like our time or some such. Rather than saying what scripture plainly says, that when people die they end up in the grave “sleeping” until they are woken at the actual resurrection of the dead.

Further sermons could be interesting if this minister keeps moving forward as the Spirit enlightens him. Otherwise, he may be diverted into more, but different, errors.

I will keep you posted.

[“Lazarus sleeps”. “Then He told them plainly, Lazarus is dead, but I go to wake him”]

WHY THE ATONEMENT IS SUBSTITUTIONAL [1108a]

If Jesus had not done what he did, we would have remained in death.

Only He could have done what needed to be done.

We in the natural, of our own resources, could not, nor can we still, present ourselves to him in a perfect form.

Without His allowances and provision for our “perfecting”, [in our imperfection] we could never “enter Heaven”.

He bore in his body the full measure of the “value” of sin, and it is now only as he gives us the privilege of the worth of that sin to our account, EG in the form of love forgiveness and mercy, are we enabled to grasp His own perfection and draw on it into ourselves.

Without His allowance for, and His provision of mercy and forgiveness [grace] to cover, forgive, forbear, and FORGET our sinful condition, we would all be dead forever.

So Jesus substituted his own resources for those which we lacked of ourselves, painfully paying the price of a fallen humanity. Because HE suffered in anguish and pain because of OUR sins and our sinful condition, WE don’t have to.

What He did applies to EVERYONE who wishes it to be applied to themselves on a personal level. It remains a fact whether or not people take him up on it, because “it” is referring to the very nature of God Himself, which remains unchanging, constant and reliable.

He has done this thing, we are to believe it. By doing so, we are believing in his loving forgiving nature, and it is by BELIEVING in him in this demonstrated form of who he is and what he does, that is our acceptance of his nature, and our acceptance of it INTO OURSELVES, changing and renewing our own previously corrupted nature, enabling us to be “partakers of the divine nature”.

All this is by the revelation of God through His own son, when we see who Jesus is we see who the father is also. The whole revelation of God is that it is he himself who rescues us by making provision for those things that we lack. They have been SUBSTITUTED for in the body of His Son. He substituted Himself, his life for ours, to provide life for us, as we believe Him. If in our autonomy, we choose to disregard His provision for us in this way, we will remain in our death.

In this way Has God revealed himself and made himself totally available to us, as our Father. “Abba [daddy], Father”. If God had not and did not substitute so much for us from His own being, from the nature of His own Son, we could never become His children.

[He gives to us of His own Spirit nature][Those who oppose substitution do so because it combines the natures of both Father and Son][The basic conveyed message of the nature of a “sacrifice” is that it is in itself substitutional ][‘His blood for ours’][His message is that we need to be reliant on Him][God is tired of people ignoring Him and establishing ‘righteousness’ in their own “name” (individuals, groups or denominations)]

WHY THE ATONEMENT IS SUBSTITUTIONAL [1108]

If Jesus had not done what he did, we would have remained in death.

Only He could have done what needed to be done.

We in the natural, of our own resources, could not, nor can we still, present ourselves to him in a perfect form.

Without His allowances and provision for our “perfecting”, [in our imperfection] we could never “enter Heaven”.

He bore in his body the full measure of the “value” of sin, and it is now only as he gives us the privilege of the worth of that sin to our account, EG in the form of love forgiveness and mercy, are we enabled to grasp His own perfection and draw on it into ourselves.

Without His allowance for, and His provision of mercy and forgiveness [grace] to cover, forgive, forbear, and FORGET our sinful condition, we would all be dead forever.

So Jesus substituted his own resources for those which we lacked of ourselves, painfully paying the price of a fallen humanity. Because HE suffered in anguish and pain because of OUR sins and our sinful condition, WE don’t have to.

What He did applies to EVERYONE who wishes it to be applied to themselves on a personal level. It remains a fact whether or not people take him up on it, because “it” is referring to the very nature of God Himself, which remains unchanging, constant and reliable.

He has done this thing, we are to believe it. By doing so, we are believing in his loving forgiving nature, and it is by BELIEVING in him in this demonstrated form of who he is and what he does, that is our acceptance of his nature, and our acceptance of it INTO OURSELVES, changing and renewing our own previously corrupted nature, enabling us to be “partakers of the divine nature”.

All this is by the revelation of God through His own son, when we see who Jesus is we see who the father is also. The whole revelation of God is that it is he himself who rescues us by making provision for those things that we lack. They have been SUBSTITUTED for in the body of His Son. He substituted Himself, his life for ours, to provide life for us, as we believe Him. If in our autonomy, we choose to disregard His provision for us in this way, we will remain in our death.

In this way Has God revealed himself and made himself totally available to us, as our Father. “Abba [daddy], Father”. If God had not and did not substitute so much for us from His own being, from the nature of His own Son, we could never become His children.

[He gives to us of His own Spirit nature][Those who oppose substitution do so because it combines the natures of both Father and Son][The basic conveyed message of the nature of a “sacrifice” is that it is in itself substitutional ][‘His blood for ours’][His message is that we need to be reliant on Him][God is tired of people ignoring Him and establishing ‘righteousness’ in their own “name” (individuals, groups or denominations)]