For Christ to suffer the full “wrath” of God, meant he had to have a full knowledge and presence of God’s righteousness within him. His “unknowing” of God while on the cross, reflects the degree of both God’s righteousness and Christ’s reception/perception of that as anger, wrath.

For God’s presence to be received as wrath, the “receiver” must have had negative qualities that were at odds with God, his righteousness, his LOVE.

Negative qualities or properties are those which are disruptive and destructive to God and to Love. The entity which was taken on as “the flesh” must have been that negative quality that was present in Christ, even though Christ was in the entity (body), he was not IN the nature of the entity. (Like we can be “in the flesh”)?

Man and Christ must have assumed the entity of flesh, and flesh likewise absorbed man within itself, like a man in a suit, only that his head [mind?] sticks out.

So the “body of this death”, just as it was with Paul, so also it must have been for Christ. As the Spirit withdraws from him, so he withdraws from the Spirit and into the flesh. Or he moves into the flesh and away from the Spirit. His perception is that God his Father, recedes into the darkness, [or that HE recedes into darkness] and has left him, abandoned him. [as Adam and us] In contrast to Jesus saying that he would never leave us.

So, conversely, because Jesus had a perfect knowledge of God, he had a perfect “knowledge” of wrath, and of the emptiness in which it was occurring. But it seems that Jesus was “on his own”. His righteousness turned on his unrighteousness, he was torn apart inside, by anguish. Conflicted, at war within himself.

This is the condition of man who has a conscience. This is the condition as expressed by Paul in Romans chapter 7, when he said, “Wretched man that I am. Who will release me from this body of death?”. Jesus cried out “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”. [normally he would have called him “father “, but he was seeing him as God, and a wrathful one]. This is akin to the parable where the rich man said “I am in anguish in this flame”.

It almost seems that where God is not, that anti-God IS? And there must always be this balance that means conflict in this world in every case where pure God is. For us it means that he took the “wrath”, the conflicting difference. “He who is not with me is against me” “He who does not gather with me, scatters” said Jesus. Always the two states. What there is of God in us will be saved. What is not of God in us will be purged. But we can be pre-purged in Christ.

Wrath is associated with guilt from sin. God took the wrath that occurred from the conflict between him and man’s sin. That anguish of “conscience” and concern that such failing would occur in man, his beloved creation, was pain that God suffered as necessary to bring his creation to birth, to life.

Is it possible that Christ received the full anguish of whatever the opposite of life is? Is death and the processes involved in it (sin) so hideous that only the righteousness of God could appreciate the depths of its opposite?

For us, grappling with conscience occurs within us because we have knowledge of a righteous God, if for no other reason than we were made in his image. This is why our conscience can bother us much, or bother us little, depending on our present distractions. But ultimately, the full knowledge (presence) of God will come to us, and wrath may result.

Christians are those who have surrendered their conscience to his cleansing, to the knowledge of his suffering on our behalf, so we might leave this place of condemnation, and enter into life. We replace that wrath which we rightfully deserve, and which we feel, with its opposite property, love. We move from flesh to Spirit, from death to life. We move from our death to his life, from our space which is void and formless of love, into that formation and nature of love.

Perfect love casts out all fear. Darkness is replaced by light. The kingdom has come.

[darkness may be the knowledge and consciousness that love is absent, of the absence of love, felt through separation from God, from Godly self] [ there can be love and compassion for the absence of love, to the point where love takes action to fill that void and alleviate the pain of that darkness, to reconcile emptiness with fullness]

[the child has been separated  from the parent, the parent initiates reconciliation, that heals fragmentation, separation, isolation]

[Wrath is the stress and pain of separation, resulting in either reconciliation or destruction. In its normal sense is meant to provide impetus for reconciliation. Separation, autonomy, results in failure, and ultimately in permanent failure. The branch must remain in the vine.

In a sense there occurs a reversal of roles, where there is a polarisation shift from negative to positive, from creature to sub-creator, by being within the creator himself. “Partakers of the divine nature”. The cross is the activator, the catalyst for conversion. The divine rescue.

Sin is the product of the absence of light. The conscience is the polariser, it ceases trying to be the arbitrator of an autonomous existence, and surrenders to the Father of Light.]



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