HAVE CRUCIFIED THE FLESH [743]

VERY EXPLORATORY EXPERIMENTAL THEOLOGY

Supposition.

Personally our sins are gone because THEY NEVER HAD ANY EXISTENCE OUTSIDE OF THE FLESH, OF THIS MORTAL BODY*. They were only ever of the immediate moment. The only record of them is by the reality of what we are or what we become, and this is what the judgement is on. This world, in reality, does not exist, because it is temporary and has no permanence. It will be gone without a trace of it left, when the new world takes its place.

We either contain sins or we don’t. We are either the product of a sinful environment or we are not, and we all started out in the sinful environment, we just hopefully do not end up in it. If we (symbolically) do away with the sinful body, [we were made to die] (Rom.7-4) then we can begin again in the spiritual body. This is our choice, death or life.

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EDIT.  Jesus did not take away our sin directly, he simply shared in it with us before overcoming it as he entered into his spiritual body and then left us behind. (but because the love of the Father was impinged upon, the responsibility was shared by him, thus releasing us, setting us free, from “legal” obligation to sin and to death.

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So we are given a choice of leaving behind our sin nature, having accepted that he depowered it for us, removing our sin status. This choice is really that which takes place as we believe or disbelieve. As the heart accepts or rejects and either responds in a new way or slips back into the old. It is the carnal mind that has a lot to do with this.

It appears to be the design intention to separate sheep from goats, on the basis of the desire for the release from sin, or not. Then there is the distortion of it, which allows for the acceptance of it, but only on the condition that the carnal mind is allowed to establish control over it, by rejecting the heart impact and accepting the rationalisation of the carnal mind, so that the ego is not impinged upon, rather it is built up into religious superiority.

The heart that wants to be cleansed accepts the basic impact of the message of Christ taking our sins for us, while the intellect that rejects this, develops and generates alternate scenarios and doctrines whereby the intellect aids the carnal mind in setting up a platform of ‘righteousness’, which, though it is not God’s righteousness, is a good counterfeit of it. “By faith in his blood” is too simple** for the intellectual who wants to have some input into the salvation process, so that credit can be claimed on the basis of having correct doctrine.

This is how variation from salvation is achieved, by which various groups (sects or cults) establish their “own” “righteousness” and by which they seek to discredit those who have the simpler form of it, because being real, it witnesses against their own derived version of it. You will always find that these groups separate themselves from the conventional view, because that is how they grow their personal power,ego, and status. Their leaders form a hierarchy system that runs on supposed intellectual prowess and self adulation.

*[It could be said that our sin has left its effects in others; but we have to stand or fall on what we are, have become, so it is the end result that matters regardless of how we got there (“In Christ”). (The workers were all rewarded regardless of the time put in). It is not a matter of “doing evil that good may come”, but unfortunately evil has already been done and it will continue to be done until the end.][** I have in previous times myself argued for the correct view of “blood” but, although being explainable, it usually ends up going against the main purpose of the communicated gospel.][I have also previously proposed the thought of salvation as being mainly by the communicated Spirit, but this is the Unitarianism viewpoint and they don’t even believe in the Spirit,[It is hard to see how they even believe in Jesus as “the only begotten son”] but also it denies the removal of sin by our acceptance of the revealed love of God by which that Spirit has to come, other than its “forced” appearance at Pentecost].[Unitarianism is closer to Judaism than to Christianity][Their Christ is closer to an Adam than to a Jesus?].

*Although sin has also had its its effects on the Father’s heart

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