WHERE IS KING DAVID? (revised) [935l]

Along with Stephen and Lazarus who have been shown to be “asleep” meaning they are DEAD, we have the description of King David in Acts where not only is he shown to be “asleep” and “dead” but also that his body DECAYED. HE decayed. Acts 13-36.

At what point will people cease to continue to try and assign a continuation of identity beyond the grave, which is unsupported by scripture?

David had served the purpose of God.

David fell asleep.

David was laid among his fathers.

David underwent decay.

WHERE IS DAVID?  In the ground, decayed, dust. (“Asleep”).

[Otherwise, what would be the point of “resurrection”?][Christ the first fruits, then when he comes… those that belong to him.][But I go to wake him up]

Acts 13:36 “For David, after he had served the purposes of God in his own generation, fell asleep, and was laid amongst his fathers, and underwent decay;…”.  DAVID UNDERWENT DECAY. Not “his body”, “HIM.”

Acts 2:29 “Brethren, I may confidently say to you regarding the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day.”

Acts 2:34 “For it was NOT DAVID who ascended into heaven…” [but Jesus]

Acts.2:30 “And so, because he was a prophet, and knew that God had sworn to him with an oath to seat one of his descendants* upon his throne, he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ*, that he was neither abandoned to Hades, [place of the dead] nor did his flesh suffer decay”.

FURTHER.    1 Corinth. 15:6  After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep;…”

12. “Now if Christ is preached, that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there is no resurrection of the dead, not even Christ has been raised; 17. and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.

20. But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep. For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ, ALL shall be made alive.

23. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming.

51. ” …..we shall not all sleep, [death] but we shall all be changed, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and WE shall be changed.”.

56.57. “The sting of death is SIN, and the POWER of sin is THE LAW; but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.”

AND.  1 Thess. 4: 13  “But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve, as do the rest who have no hope. 14. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. 15. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, and remain until the coming of the Lord, shall not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God; and the DEAD in Christ will rise first.. 17. Then we who are [ still ] ALIVE and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord.”.  AT THE RESURRECTION.

[See Luke 20:38. He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for as far as He is concerned, all ARE alive]

[See Daniel 12:2]

I’M OK, YOU’RE OK [1806]

There was some time ago a popular idea and a book called “I’m OK, You’re OK,” which was about “Transactional Analysis”, or “T.A.” for short. This philosophy proposed that we were intrinsically ok but needed to consider just how we functioned regarding our interaction with others. It brings in aspects of dysfunctionality in families and connects with Christianity, but It remains just another interesting tool of philosophy which ultimately cannot “save”.

Christianity proposes the same outcome but for a different reason, that we are indeed “OK” but because God has provided that ‘OK-ness’ for us, that we can take confidence in life because it is of His design and He has provided all we need to function in this life as we journey towards the next. But that we need to consider His word regarding this journey, that there needs to be taken into consideration the fact that He gave His Son in order for this to be made clear and apparent to us that He is trustworthy regarding the final outcome of our lives.

So all is indeed “OK” as long as we trust and rely on Him and His love towards us, which like Him was always there for us to participate in, and once we realise that nothing we have done or can do will ever alter His steadfastness towards us of good and only good, and trust Him for it. ‘Other than good’ does not come from God, but from the circumstances arising from mankind not relying on Him and His goodness, but instead deviating from Him and going their own way for their own selfish purposes and self satisfaction of wrong desires.

So “I’m OK, You’re OK’ depends upon you believing this to be true and relying on God’s love for you to be the provision of all that is good towards you, and the provision of all that is good towards helping you deal with all that is NOT good towards you. If God was not the living reality of Himself and had not given His Son to become the Spirit of life for us, none of this would make sense. But God is indeed a supernatural living Spirit of life who will fill you with Himself if you will allow Him to by believing in Jesus as the living proof of life eternal and the gift of His righteousness to be in us forever.


Romans 7 describes the condition of being bonded to sin, which by nature, we are. but Jesus came to give us a new nature, HIS new nature, which for all practical purposes came about, for us, at Pentecost. The word says “The Lord, who is the Spirit”. And it says “He became a life giving Spirit”. The word speaks of us being partakers of that DIVINE new nature.

What is the means by which this new nature comes? It comes by FAITH, which is to believe that He has given us this, His very own new nature, as and by the SPIRIT which He is, He gives us of Himself and He gives us Himself.

This involves a change of arrangements or covenant with God. The old Jewish covenant (of which we gentiles were not a part) consisted of a set of legal requirements that we “behave” ourselves in certain ways, rules laws and regulations. We gentiles never had that, or at least not until the wrong teachings of the church insisted that we also were under this covenant, “the ten commandments” often being the focus of this misguided religious process.

God’s new covenant involved the forgiveness of the failure to keep the conditions of the old, in the case of the Jew, and the forgiveness of the Gentile who failed to keep the same or similar God given structures which came through the conscience established originally through the failed Adamic “knowledge of good and evil”, and also just life’s experiences, but having here also to acknowledge the profound effect on societies who came into some knowledge of the Jewish commandment structure, as well as Christianity in its fundamental form which has changed those societies who, even in principle, embraced it.

So we see that failure of the old covenant being expressed in Romans 7 where it is necessarily explained to provide the reason why such a change of covenant was necessary, that trying to get people to “do the right thing”, which in its ultimate form means loving to the extent of surrendering your own life to God, whatever that may consequently mean, like Jesus, in the service of others; could never be brought about with the natural mindset that accompanies natural and deficient human life which is incapable of grasping the moralistic structure of the purity of God. The natural structure of man operates from internalised “laws” which are in essence those of self preservation, not God preservation.

It was necessary to introduce a life changing “element” into what previously was only an organic physiology that could not, and was not capable of, understanding the “mind of God”, even though we were “made in the image of God”, that image had taken a severe beating in the practical outworking of daily life, from what we basically were in structure, similar to the animals from a moralistic point of view, driven by our own needs, and more to the point, lusts and desires. To all of this, God’s requirements and desires had to “take a back seat”.

So Paul explains to us the need for change, and that change had to be a drastic one which altered lives forever to the extent that they were, were considered to be, “born again”, that though we had been born in the natural of flesh and blood, we needed now to be given birth by a completely new element, one which was to introduce the nature of God INTO His creation, so that the natural might become participant in the “super-natural”.

In chapter 7 of Romans, it is the old covenant which applies to the natural “born of the flesh” nature that is being spoken of. It is the deficiency [because of ‘human nature’] of that “old” arrangement between God and His people that Paul explains by showing how that arrangement applied to himself, and the results that occurred from it. Whereas the effect of the NEW covenant is to give life, the effect of the old, was to TAKE it. Paul said that he once had life but the old law covenant took it away from him, that in fact it killed him. And he explains all of the ins and outs of this internal life destroying “mechanism” that “sin” has, that it brings to bear on us to pressure us into submission to its dictates, to take control of us, because of the power it has over us in our “dead” state brought about by this old arrangement which Paul called “the ministry of death”.

So as a dead person under the law of sin and death, he wriggles and squirms under the demands of the law until He finally has to admit defeat, exclaiming “Wretched man that I am, who will deliver me from this body of death” (or, “from the death of this body”). He has recognised that he himself is not in control of himself, neither in thought nor in deed, in action, in behaviour, in an acceptable moral attitude. That “sin” which is activity inside of him is in control of who he is by controlling what he is by what he thinks and does.

It is because of this recognition and his ultimate admission and confession that the state of righteousness, of right “being”, is foreign to the natural structure of who and what he is, that he sees within himself that the fact that he desires to do right, yet ends up doing wrong, is the very proof that his willpower amounts to nothing, and that sin, both in its organised AND in its random activity of desires to do other than God’s will is actually “running the show”. So he says “therefore it is not I, but sin dwelling in me that does it”. (“The devil made me do it”? was the popular expression).

Having posed the question who will release me, who will liberate me, who will FREE me from this BONDAGE and slavery, this servitude to the sin nature, “sin in the flesh”? only then is the name of Jesus heard in his explanation of this complete admission of his responsibility for the production of sinful activity outside the will of God, other than his denial of having any natural given resources to deal with or to alter, to change the situation in any way, because by this he is saying that HE DOES NOT OF HIMSELF HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO SO. Jesus said “without Me you can do nothing” (nothing good) and so it is necessary that we not be without Him, that we in fact HAVE HIM and that in the form of His spiritual self, the comforter, the Spirit of truth, the “Holy Spirit”, without whom as Paul has shown, WE CAN DO NOTHING.

So only Jesus can “set us free from this body of death”, by whose addition to us, by whose rebirth IN US, can turn us into new creatures of the new creation.”If any man be in Christ, he is a new creation, the old has gone, behold the new has come”. And this is the case with the old and new covenants, as represented by the old and new ‘testaments”, that the “new wineskins” have arrived in which to put the “new wine” of the Spirit of Jesus, and the bubbling of life may be heard once again, in its new and eternal form.

Jesus came to release us from our bondage and servitude to sin, he “bought us with his blood” that we now might be in servitude to Him and Him alone. Slavery to sin in Romans chapter 7 is only ended in Romans chapter 8.


If all churches were truly on the ball and thoroughly acquainted with scripture, then there is no reason why the Spirit should not be actively involved amongst the congregation. The fact that this is often not the case, examples to what degree there is no such acquaintance with scripture, and that people only choose the scriptures of their own preference by which to justify themselves in their sins before God.

The constant referring to the old testament without clarification of the context involved, leaves people puddling around in the old covenant to which this old testament is attached. Even though the new covenant is one not of law, and the statement of Christians is that they are not under law, they continue to act as if they were. It has always been particularly true of Pentecostal groups who, while majoring on the Spirit, also derive much of their teaching and references from the old testament and the old covenant, which is a sort of contradiction of terms, a kind of ‘oxymoron’.

Other instances of the quenching of the Spirit occurs where the Spirit is actively opposed because of fear of repeat performances of such as the infamous Toronto Blessing and Pensacola? in the USA where people made noises like barking dogs and other such nonsenses where they claimed to be acting under the influence of the Spirit. The Spirit does indeed act in supernatural ways, but there are also other spiritual and supernatural influences which can imitate the real thing and are to be guarded against. But the whole intent and purpose of Christ was to foster a church where He could manifest Himself within the congregation both collectively and individually, and to “throw out the baby with the bathwater” by speaking and acting against individuals and groups who seek only to properly represent Him on earth, is to bring death to that which otherwise would have grown life in its intended form.

Many and varied are the religious ideas which arise out of scripture, but the basis is that man has arisen from God’s design and is meant to be made whole in Christ and progress towards the eternal destiny of a perfected being who is fit for a perfect environment in which both live forever. Much of the pattern of this eternal life is already manifested in the physical on Earth in such a way as to encourage its pursuance into the Spiritual, by faith. That what we become through faith is that which we will remain as and which will be subjected to assessment by the eternal environment itself, which will either accept us as compatible or reject us as incompatible to live in such a perfect environment.

The difference between many views and the Christ view is that God has already acted to bring this situation of acceptance into being, but that to enter into this which He has done, requires us to accept it as a free gift of life, which necessitates of us that we relinquish our naturally inherited ‘mantle of death’ which comes with this naturally born body, and accept our freedom from any debt to it and its natural processes, because He has paid out those debts by passing through the same ‘lawful’ processes of physical death in order to present us with the outcome, spiritual life, which will in turn bring about our own renewed physicality of life. He has outlawed ‘spiritual’ death and the law of it so that life and His law of it may prevail to our benefit, and may live in us, to be confirmed on His return to take us to be where He also is.

Errors which promote the antichrist thinking instead of the Christ thinking have the effect of diminishing the Spirit in favour of the flesh; of reducing, diminishing and demeaning Christ’s victory over law flesh sin and death and instead, promoting their continuance instead of their termination. Apparently anyone who harbors and promotes these wrong ideas is themselves an antichrist, they are something which appears not as Christ, but as “other than” Christ; by not truly believing who Christ was and what He achieved, and by promoting things other than this as being the truth concerning Him. Those who are “other than” Christ will be removed from the scene once Christ Himself arrives.

The dispute over Romans chapter 7 is a perfect example of those who promote that which is “other than Christ”, by claiming that the person therein (Paul) was writing of Himself in his office of a Christian apostle and as a representative of Christ and the Christian faith. They claim that the moral failures manifested in this chapter are typical of the Christian experience and by doing this they bring the victory of Jesus into disrepute and the power of the Spirit as being insufficient to save. By doing this they maintain the authority of law over Spirit and diminish the perfect victory which Jesus obtained to place at our disposal. Romans 7 describes the pitiful and helplessly entangled position of one enslaved under law, being the very condition from which man is rescued by faith in the Christ he clearly does not yet know.


From two posts ago we now move further into the theology of “Ron” of “Scripture revealed” only to discover that he is way off the mark with his theology because now he is saying that the church age will never end, and indeed that there is no fiery end such as in popular understanding. https://www.scripturerevealed.com/prophesy/world-without-end/

It makes interesting reading because of the arguments used concerning scripture, and his further articles may be even more revealing along similar lines of error.

I say this because he claims there is no burning destruction of the present world, while contrastingly I have made a major thing about the symbolism of fire in relation to it being God in confrontation with His creation, and about the many references that tell us there will indeed be a final testing by fire which will sort out the physical matter from that which is spiritual matter. (The “Second Death”)

One would have to put scripture against scripture to work it all out, but I would have to say that such an exercise would be time wasting and non profitable other than as a demonstration of the principle of “not rightly dividing scripture”. And this is not to say that some of his scriptural claims and assessments are not correct, as the prior post regarding “antichrist” demonstrates in part.

But it appears obvious that he is simply following his own preconceived ideas in an attempt to deconstruct those parts of scripture which represent punishment and future judgement, since he has allocated these to the end of the old covenant and the ushering in of the new. But further reading would confirm the reality of this being his intention.


Here is a link to an article by “Ron” of “Scripture revealed” https://www.scripturerevealed.com/prophesy/the-antichrist-deception/ which alters the common idea of who or what “Antichrist” is, and may lead you to ask of yourself, ‘Am I of Christ or antichrist?’ The “Anti” part of “Antichrist” apparently does not mean ‘anti’ as in AGAINST something (as in against Christ) , but means OTHER THAN ‘Christ’.

THE FOLLOWING are some thoughts I had re the subject, prior to reading his article.

Possibly all of man since “the fall” of Adam (of mankind) places everybody in the status of “Antichrist” by virtue of the position of inner sin in denial of inner God.

So are you Christ or Antichrist? Are we our own Antichrist? All that applies to the wording of some of these particular verses could also apply to Adam and to us? Falling under the great deception could refer to the original fall of Adam and hence all of us.

By nature, from Adam, we are children of “the” Antichrist, “children of wrath”. [“You are of your father the devil and the works of your father you do.”]

But since Christ, we can be His children, the ‘children of Christ’, and not of (the) Antichrist.

It is one or the other. It is not to be considered strange then, that “the church” will contain Antichrists.

These antichrists use “the law” to further their cause of continuing the world of sin and death in defiance of Christ and His established victory.

The deception that continues is the same one exhibited in Eden, that law excludes grace, that forgiveness is not available, that God’s nature of love has not conquered all. [That Christ has not come in the flesh]. Those who disallow their own ‘conquering’, who disallow the King of glory, will remain conquered by themselves, by their own inner sinfulness, the kingdom of which is established within.

Romans 7 is a litmus test of those who are Christ or antichrist, of those who want the power of sin discontinued, or want the power of sin continued in denial of the victory He bought us with.

[The normal view of this great deception is considered to be that of a futuristic emerging world leader who himself claims to be Christ, whom the world will ‘go after’ in allegiance to Him]

P.S. Some of Ron’s material seems to be more than a bit off the mark! – More to come on this in a post about his “End Times” article about “world without end”.


This was the post I was reluctant to write, because it seems unavoidable that in order to point up the individuality of the Christian faith, it is necessary to reveal what it is NOT, that it is NOT compatible with the faith of its origins in Judaism which are based on law. It may owe a debt of origin in terms of it being the very REVERSAL of the effect of any system of laws, but its degree of shift from that origin is absolute and complete, that God is Himself not, nor does He demand either subservience OR homage to any such system whereby the human anatomy is kept in a state of uninspired debt to its basic nature, in which attainment of an ultimately elevated state of spirituality is impossible to be achieved.

The Christian belief is that to have real life is only possible by having the Spirit of life as given freely by God and made freely available to all.

It is this Spirit of life that God made available through His Son, in contrast to any attempted self achievement of righteousness by any other way, especially a very system of laws which can only point out the difference which exists between a spirit of death in the absence of a (The) Spirit of life.

It is the retention of systems of law that pollute the pure Spirit of the life in Christ, that pollute and contaminate the Christian Spirit, as they install corrupted versions of the divine nature within “Christian” congregations.

One can only have the Spirit of life by actually HAVING that Spirit of life, as given and received when one has faith in Jesus. He who has the Son has life, he who does not have the Son has only the death that the default position of not having the Son of life, is.

Jesus Himself said “If you do not believe that I am He, then you will die in your sins”. Jesus “became a life giving Spirit” so that we do not die in our sins, but instead are rescued from them that we no longer live in them or in any system of sin, but rather that we dwell in the light as He is in the light. We shift from death consciousness to life consciousness.

Traditional Christianity has proclaimed “The ten commandments” to such an extent that it has become woven into the fabric of the substitutionary and counterfeit new covenant. The distinction between the old and new covenants is lost, and the boundaries blurred to such an extent that this gives rise to such errors as calling Romans 7 the Christian position, when it is indeed the position of one under the law before coming to Christ, not his performance afterwards.

People cannot see that there is a leaving of the old covenant and a cleaving to the new, they are far too comfortable with a system of guidance by law, to entertain the thought of guidance by some supposed esoteric spirit which operates through a cleansed heart and conscience by acceptance of the sacrifice of Christ as delivered by the love of God and His only begotten Son. The blood of His sacrifice and the renewal of His own body as a way of creating a pathway of eternal salvation is not seen by them as being sufficient incentive to accept the way of the Spirit and the way of His love over the way of written down concepts of what may be right and wrong. To deny this Spirit of salvation is to deny His life given for us.

So instead of a Christianity guided by the Spirit of Christ Himself, elements of death are retained because elements of law are retained which simply reinforce the system of law flesh sin and death.

So it simply amounts to a refusal to leave the old covenant and cleave to the new covenant.

Modern theology denies the power of the Spirit as demonstrated at Pentecost, instead reducing it to a morality where the old covenant in their thinking has superior power and authority to the new. By so doing they deny both the power of God and their own salvation.

And what is the demonstration of this false religion? It lies in everything which tries to downgrade the Spirit and to upgrade the law, which tries to reduce the identity and existence of the Spirit, in preference for the retention of some law based concept or precept which usually originates in some legalistic sect or cult or belief of a Unitarian based religion where to them the idea of God having a Son who is divine, is against their fundamental belief in a “God is only one” concept. It is also for this reason they deny the “Trinity”, because to accept it would place too much emphasis on the “person” of the Spirit. They refuse to recognise that the basis of the promise of salvation was to be achieved by the reception of the Holy Spirit and that it is by Him personally indwelling us that reconciliation with God is achieved, and by whom we are sanctified. There has also been physical circumcision when the new covenant makes the clear distinction between that and a spiritual circumcision of the heart for believers.

So what is the solution to this problem? It is to ensure separation of the old and the new, to leave the old behind and to concentrate on the new, which is life of and by the Spirit, whatever the reality of that may prove to be. Scripturally, it must be LOVE.