THE ERROR OF THE T.P.T. “THE PASSION TRANSLATION” [1818b]

I saw this translation being lauded in someone else’s blog post, and checked it out in relation to Romans 7. Although it seemed to have a lot going for it, the fine print, the details, revealed some important discrepancies and differences to that which I have come to understand about this very important chapter.

The major error people fall into with this chapter is that they end up believing that Paul is describing himself and his behaviour, as an apostle, as a Christian, of his Christian experience. And they get from this that the law is still relevant. This is not the case, as he is talking about the law covenant and our failure under it, necessitating a change of covenant, which is not empowered in his description until chapter 8 where the “setting free” from the law of sin is pronounced as being the result of the “law of the Spirit of life”. There is no mention of Spirit in 7 other than verse 6 which announces that there has now been a change of covenant but that is the end of the matter before he then launches into “What was the law all about then” (paraphrase).

Prior to that, Paul has concluded that there are two laws in operation (v25) that are in fact what composes the duality of human nature from which our internal conflict arises, but which 8:2 frees us from the law of sin.

So although the last TPT section of Romans 7 starts as “Life under the law”, it pulls a couple of tricks which alter the relationship between the relevant factors. Verse 25 has the two conditions, the two laws, swapped around positionally so that instead of the law of sin being the last of the chapter, it is now the ‘law of his mind’, but it is not called ‘law’ or just ‘mind’ but it is changed to BUT NOW my RENEWED mind which brings in the idea that his mind has been renewed, and that by the Spirit; the so called ‘renewed mind law’ which then becomes the last line mentioned as if it were the final conclusion.

The TPT author also (verse 25) says “If left to myself” but this is followed by BUT NOW suggesting that the “left to myself” has also changed, implying that he has been speaking as one already changed, IE of his CHRISTIAN self.

He says “BUT NOW” my RENEWED mind is fixed on and submitted to “God’s righteous principles”. But just a minute, his mind was ALWAYS submitted, via the law, to “God’s righteous principles” which the law expressed and taught, and which he is obviously speaking about. “God’s righteous principles” cannot here be expressed in terms of the Spirit which came at Pentecost, but only as LAW which came through MOSES.

His “but now” reverses the intention of the “but on the other hand” (NASB) and “the law of sin”, by removing the duality of the two laws. Back in verse 18 he says that his will power is not enough to accomplish it. So what has changed since then? Right up until verse 24 he is still in captivity to sin. Paul has said in verse 22, 23 that the “law of his mind” which concurs with the law of God is defeated by, and made captive to, the “law of sin” in his flesh. And the TPT author’s final line is that his ‘renewed’ mind is fixed on and submitted to “God’s righteous principles”. But we are not to serve “God’s righteous principles,” but CHRIST through the power of His SPIRIT.

Although attempting to maintain the position that Paul has been describing himself as a Christian simply looking back through past experience [which he was, but get the context right please] he ultimately is trying to say that the change from slavery to sin to slavery to God has occurred only from the mention of the name of Jesus.

What has to be seen is that Paul’s mind is in agreement with God’s law, and in principle is subservient to it, but that he is powerless to enact it or to perform it under the law which actually empowers sin and slavery to it. “For the sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law, but thanks be to God who gives us the victory through Christ”.

Verse 25 simply reiterates this principle of the duality of the human condition and is where chapter 7 leaves the matter, to enter into chapter 8 where in verse 2, by the SPIRIT, we are now “set free from the law of sin (and death)”, in conjunction with 8:1 (Because of the foregoing in chapter 7) “There is THEREFORE now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”.

8:1,2 are the conclusion to chapter 7 which does NOT conclude at 7:25, which simply describes Paul’s findings in relation to the matter being investigated as being that in natural man there are two laws (one of which, the law of sin as empowered by the law is the main subject matter of chapter 7) and the other being the “law of my mind” which wants to “do” the law but is prevented from this by the law of sin in his members. [flesh].

These two laws as described in 7:25 are as they are in their latent or passive state, but which when provoked by law, spring into action as (as in 7:5,9) 1/ the mind wishing to “perform” the law, but 2/ the “law of sin” overriding the law of his mind in accordance with the law of sin and death. [When these two laws are presented with the grace of chapter 8, the “law of sin” is disabled, empowering the “law of his mind”].

In addition to the changes to 7:25 as mentioned above, whoever did this has really “done a number” on it, saying, “…So if left to myself, the flesh is aligned with the law of sin, BUT NOW my RENEWED mind is FIXED ON (inferring the “mindset” of 8:6) and SUBMITTED TO God’s righteous principles”.) But as I said before, the only submission of the mind that exists in 7 was the one always over-ridden by the flesh, by captivity to the “law of sin” in it.

The broad scope of this deception could perhaps be seen to lie in the terminology of “RENEWED mind” in conjunction with the SUBMISSION TO “God’s righteous principles”. In other words, THE LAW.

So we are back to keeping the law. THERE IS NO SPIRIT HERE.

[By saying “if left to myself” and then following it with “but now my renewed mind” he is insinuating that Paul was now NOT “left to himself”, IE that he had Jesus and the SPIRIT (by which his mind was renewed)][This leaves us NOT with the duality of the natural man, but the duality of a Christian, (7:25 NASB) ‘BUT still serving with my flesh the law of sin’.][He says “my RENEWED mind is FIXED on and SUBMITTED TO”, not in relation to the law, but in relation to “God’s righteous principles” thereby claiming allegiance and performance (victory) to God by the Holy Spirit, while simultaneously maintaining the status of old covenant law][When he says “my renewed mind” he is wrongly claiming that this means one who is renewed in Christ][By “God’s righteous principles” he is claiming them as spiritual principles and therefore as spirit.]

[This TPT interpretation/translation has obviously been constructed to promote the wrong view that Paul was speaking as a Christian]

 

THE ERROR OF THE T.P.T. “THE PASSION TRANSLATION” [1818a]

I saw this translation being lauded in someone else’s blog post, and checked it out in relation to Romans 7. Although it seemed to have a lot going for it, the fine print, the details, revealed some important discrepancies and differences to that which I have come to understand about this very important chapter.

The major error people fall into with this chapter is that they end up believing that Paul is describing himself and his behaviour, as an apostle, as a Christian, of his Christian experience. And they get from this that the law is still relevant. This is not the case, as he is talking about the law covenant and our failure under it, necessitating a change of covenant, which is not empowered in his description until chapter 8 where the “setting free” from the law of sin is pronounced as being the result of the “law of the Spirit of life”. There is no mention of Spirit in 7 other than verse 6 which announces that there has now been a change of covenant but that is the end of the matter before he then launches into “What was the law all about then” (paraphrase).

Prior to that, Paul has concluded that there are two laws in operation (v25) that are in fact what composes the duality of human nature from which our internal conflict arises, but which 8:2 frees us from the law of sin.

So although the last TPT section of Romans 7 starts as “Life under the law”, it pulls a couple of tricks which alter the relationship between the relevant factors. Verse 25 has the two conditions, the two laws, swapped around positionally so that instead of the law of sin being the last of the chapter, it is now the ‘law of his mind’, but it is not called ‘law’ or just ‘mind’ but it is changed to BUT NOW my RENEWED mind which brings in the idea that his mind has been renewed, and that by the Spirit; the so called ‘renewed mind law’ which then becomes the last line mentioned as if it were the final conclusion.

The TPT author also (verse 25) says “If left to myself” but this is followed by BUT NOW suggesting that the “left to myself” has also changed, implying that he has been speaking as one already changed, IE of his CHRISTIAN self.

He says “BUT NOW” my RENEWED mind is fixed on and submitted to “God’s righteous principles”. But just a minute, Paul’s mind was ALWAYS submitted, via the law, to “God’s righteous principles” which the law expressed and taught, and which he is obviously speaking about. “God’s righteous principles” cannot here be expressed in terms of the Spirit which came at Pentecost, but only as LAW which came through MOSES.

His “but now” reverses the intention of the “but on the other hand” (NASB) and “the law of sin”, by removing the duality of the two laws. Back in verse 18 he says that his will power is not enough to accomplish it. So what has changed since then? Right up until verse 24 he is still in captivity to sin. Paul has said in verse 22, 23 that the “law of his mind” which concurs with the law of God is defeated by, and made captive to, the “law of sin” in his flesh. And the TPT author’s final line is that his ‘renewed’ mind is fixed on and submitted to “God’s righteous principles”. But we are not to serve “God’s righteous principles,” but CHRIST through the power of His SPIRIT.

Although attempting to maintain the position that Paul has been describing himself as a Christian simply looking back through past experience [which he was, but get the context right please] he ultimately is trying to say that the change from slavery to sin to slavery to God has occurred only from the mention of the name of Jesus.

What has to be seen is that Paul’s mind is in agreement with God’s law, and in principle is subservient to it, but that he is powerless to enact it or to perform it under the law which actually empowers sin and slavery to it. “For the sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law, but thanks be to God who gives us the victory through Christ”.

Verse 25 simply reiterates this principle of the duality of the human condition and is where chapter 7 leaves the matter, to enter into chapter 8 where in verse 2, by the SPIRIT, we are now “set free from the law of sin (and death)”, in conjunction with 8:1 (Because of the foregoing in chapter 7) “There is THEREFORE now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”.

8:1,2 are the conclusion to chapter 7 which does NOT conclude at 7:25, which simply describes Paul’s findings in relation to the matter being investigated as being that in natural man there are two laws (one of which, the law of sin as empowered by the law is the main subject matter of chapter 7) and the other being the “law of my mind” which wants to “do” the law but is prevented from this by the law of sin in his members. [flesh].

These two laws as described in 7:25 are as they are in their latent or passive state, but which when provoked by law, spring into action as (as in 7:5,9) 1/ the mind wishing to “perform” the law, but 2/ the “law of sin” overriding the law of his mind in accordance with the law of sin and death. [When these two laws are presented with the grace of chapter 8, the “law of sin” is disabled, empowering the “law of his mind”].

In addition to the changes to 7:25 as mentioned above, whoever did this has really “done a number” on it, saying, “…So if left to myself, the flesh is aligned with the law of sin, BUT NOW my RENEWED mind is FIXED ON (inferring the “mindset” of 8:6) and SUBMITTED TO God’s righteous principles”.) But as I said before, the only submission of the mind that exists in 7 was the one always over-ridden by the flesh, by captivity to the “law of sin” in it.

The broad scope of this deception could perhaps be seen to lie in the terminology of “RENEWED mind” in conjunction with the SUBMISSION TO “God’s righteous principles”. In other words, THE LAW.

So we are back to keeping the law. THERE IS NO SPIRIT HERE.

[By saying “if left to myself” and then following it with “but now my renewed mind” he is insinuating that Paul was now NOT “left to himself”, IE that he had Jesus and the SPIRIT (by which his mind was renewed)][This leaves us NOT with the duality of the natural man, but the duality of a Christian, (7:25 NASB) ‘BUT still serving with my flesh the law of sin’.][He says “my RENEWED mind is FIXED on and SUBMITTED TO”, not in relation to the law, but in relation to “God’s righteous principles” thereby claiming allegiance and performance (victory) to God by the Holy Spirit, while simultaneously maintaining the status of old covenant law][When he says “my renewed mind” he is wrongly claiming that this means one who is renewed in Christ][By “God’s righteous principles” he is claiming them as spiritual principles and therefore as spirit.]

[This TPT interpretation/translation has obviously been constructed to defend the wrong view that Paul was speaking as a Christian]

 

THE ERROR OF THE T.P.T. “THE PASSION TRANSLATION” [1818]

I saw this translation being lauded in someone else’s blog post, and checked it out in relation to Romans 7. Although it seemed to have a lot going for it, the fine print, the details, revealed some important discrepancies and differences to that which I have come to understand about this very important chapter.

The major error people fall into with this chapter is that they end up believing that Paul is describing himself and his behaviour, as an apostle, as a Christian, of his Christian experience. And they get from this that the law is still relevant. This is not the case, as he is talking about the law covenant and our failure under it, necessitating a change of covenant, which is not empowered in his description until chapter 8 where the “setting free” from the law of sin is pronounced as being the result of the “law of the Spirit of life”. There is no mention of Spirit in 7 other than verse 6 which announces that there has now been a change of covenant but that is the end of the matter before he then launches into “What was the law all about then” (paraphrase).

Prior to that, Paul has concluded that there are two laws in operation (v25) that are in fact what composes the duality of human nature from which our internal conflict arises, but which 8:2 frees us from the law of sin.

So although the last TPT section of Romans 7 starts as “Life under the law”, it pulls a couple of tricks which alter the relationship between the relevant factors. Verse 25 has the two conditions, the two laws, swapped around positionally so that instead of the law of sin being the last of the chapter, it is now the ‘law of his mind’, but it is not called ‘law’ or just ‘mind’ but it is changed to BUT NOW my RENEWED mind which brings in the idea that his mind has been renewed, and that by the Spirit; the so called ‘renewed mind law’ which then becomes the last line mentioned as if it were the final conclusion.

The TPT author also (verse 25) says “If left to myself” but this is followed by BUT NOW suggesting that the “left to myself” has also changed, implying that he has been speaking as one already changed, IE of his CHRISTIAN self.

He says “BUT NOW” my RENEWED mind is fixed on and submitted to “God’s righteous principles”. But just a minute, Paul’s mind was ALWAYS submitted, via the law, to “God’s righteous principles” which the law expressed and taught, and which he is obviously speaking about. “God’s righteous principles” cannot here be expressed in terms of the Spirit which came at Pentecost, but only as LAW which came through MOSES.

His “but now” reverses the intention of the “but on the other hand” (NASB) and “the law of sin”, by removing the duality of the two laws. Back in verse 18 he says that his will power is not enough to accomplish it. So what has changed since then? Right up until verse 24 he is still in captivity to sin. Paul has said in verse 22, 23 that the “law of his mind” which concurs with the law of God is defeated by, and made captive to, the “law of sin” in his flesh. And the TPT author’s final line is that his ‘renewed’ mind is fixed on and submitted to “God’s righteous principles”. But we are not to serve “God’s righteous principles,” but CHRIST through the power of His SPIRIT.

Although attempting to maintain the position that Paul has been describing himself as a Christian simply looking back through past experience [which he was, but get the context right please] he ultimately is trying to say that the change from slavery to sin to slavery to God has occurred only from the mention of the name of Jesus.

What has to be seen is that Paul’s mind is in agreement with God’s law, and in principle is subservient to it, but that he is powerless to enact it or to perform it under the law which actually empowers sin and slavery to it. “For the sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law, but thanks be to God who gives us the victory through Christ”.

Verse 25 simply reiterates this principle of the duality of the human condition and is where chapter 7 leaves the matter, to enter into chapter 8 where in verse 2, by the SPIRIT, we are now “set free from the law of sin (and death)”, in conjunction with 8:1 (Because of the foregoing in chapter 7) “There is THEREFORE now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”.

8:1,2 are the conclusion to chapter 7 which does NOT conclude at 7:25, which simply describes Paul’s findings in relation to the matter being investigated as being that in natural man there are two laws (one of which, the law of sin as empowered by the law is the main subject matter of chapter 7) and the other being the “law of my mind” which wants to “do” the law but is prevented from this by the law of sin in his members. [flesh].

These two laws as described in 7:25 are as they are in their latent or passive state, but which when provoked by law, spring into action as (as in 7:5,9) 1/ the mind wishing to “perform” the law, but 2/ the “law of sin” overriding the law of his mind in accordance with the law of sin and death. [When these two laws are presented with the grace of chapter 8, the “law of sin” is disabled, empowering the “law of his mind”].

In addition to the changes to 7:25 as mentioned above, whoever did this has really “done a number” on it, saying, “…So if left to myself, the flesh is aligned with the law of sin, BUT NOW my RENEWED mind is FIXED ON (inferring the “mindset” of 8:6) and SUBMITTED TO God’s righteous principles”.) But as I said before, the only submission of the mind that exists in 7 was the one always over-ridden by the flesh, by captivity to the “law of sin” in it.

The broad scope of this deception could perhaps be seen to lie in the terminology of “RENEWED mind” in conjunction with the SUBMISSION TO “God’s righteous principles”. In other words, THE LAW.

So we are back to keeping the law. THERE IS NO SPIRIT HERE.

[By saying “if left to myself” and then following it with “but now my renewed mind” he is insinuating that Paul was now NOT “left to himself”, IE that he had Jesus and the SPIRIT (by which his mind was renewed)][This leaves us NOT with the duality of the natural man, but the duality of a Christian, (7:25 NASB) ‘BUT still serving with my flesh the law of sin’.][He says “my RENEWED mind is FIXED on and SUBMITTED TO”, not in relation to the law, but in relation to “God’s righteous principles” thereby claiming allegiance and performance (victory) to God by the Holy Spirit, while simultaneously maintaining the status of old covenant law][When he says “my renewed mind” he is wrongly claiming that this means one who is renewed in Christ][By “God’s righteous principles” he is claiming them as spiritual principles and therefore as spirit.]

[This TPT interpretation/translation has obviously been constructed to defend the wrong view that Paul was speaking as a Christian]

 

CHRISTIANS ARE THOSE LED BY THE SPIRIT [1769a]

If you are a Christian, you are led by the Spirit, not by the flesh. If you are under the law instead of under the Spirit, you are under the power of sin, because sin derives its power from the law. Law gives power to the flesh. The law was given as a structure by which we could recognise sin and eventually turn from it, both law and sin, to follow the Spirit, having a new cleansed heart and cleansed conscience. [that there be a new heaven and new earth in which righteousness dwells].

If you are led by the Spirit you are not led by the law, you are not under it. The Spirit is ‘on top’ of it, making the law redundant. The old way of the old covenant is replaced by the new way of the new covenant, which operates with a completely new mindset. The law only describes righteousness whereas the Spirit places it inside you with the indwelling persona of Christ.

The old law was in place only until the new [law*] had come, the guardianship of the law under a learning process was only in place until it was replaced by the “guardianship” of the new “tutor” the Spirit, once the Spirit (Jesus) had come. Now that Jesus is here, he has replaced the guidance of the law with the guidance of the Spirit.

The law ministers death and condemnation, the Spirit ministers life, forgiveness and reconciliation. The two cannot be mixed or the wineskin will burst, and in many deceived people it already has.

*[ The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus][you either internalise Spirit or law, you cannot have both][either death is internalised or life is internalised][death is manifested or life is manifested][the law was abolished in His flesh][the law must also be abolished in ours].

CHRISTIANS ARE THOSE LED BY THE SPIRIT [1769]

If you are a Christian, you are led by the Spirit, not by the flesh. If you are under the law instead of under the Spirit, you are under the power of sin, because sin derives its power from the law. Law gives power to the flesh. The law was given as a structure by which we could recognise sin and eventually turn from it, both law and sin, to follow the Spirit, having a new cleansed heart and cleansed conscience. [that there be a new heaven and new earth in which righteousness dwells].

If you are led by the Spirit you are not led by the law, you are not under it. The Spirit is ‘on top’ of it, making the law redundant. The old way of the old covenant is replaced by the new way of the new covenant, which operates with a completely new mindset. The law only describes righteousness whereas the Spirit places it inside you with the indwelling persona of Christ.

The old law was in place only until the new [law*] had come, the guardianship of the law under a learning process was only in place until it was replaced by the “guardianship” of the new “tutor” the Spirit, once the Spirit (Jesus) had come. Now that Jesus is here, he has replaced the guidance of the law with the guidance of the Spirit.

The law ministers death and condemnation, the Spirit ministers life, forgiveness and reconciliation. The two cannot be mixed or the wineskin will burst, and in many deceived people it already has.

*[ The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus][you either internalise Spirit or law, you cannot have both][either death is internalised or life is internalised][death is manifested or life is manifested][the law was abolished in His flesh][the law must also be abolished in ours].

THE COVENANT THAT WAS THE LAW OF MOSES, IS GONE [1681a]

God made a covenant with Israel, He entered into an agreement with them that they should keep the law, the old covenant, in which case He would look after them. But that old covenant proved to be ineffective as far as bringing about righteousness goes, and God made a new arrangement that was to take over from the old.

So the old law covenant, based on the law of Moses, has been replaced with the new covenant of faith in Jesus. The old is gone, the new has come. The law covenant has gone, the grace covenant has come.

LAW [Moses] HAS GONE, GRACE [Jesus] HAS COME.

[“For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did”]

https:///www.truthaccordingtoscripture.com/documents/books/counterfeit-cross/romans-7.php#.YIEbwB3iuUk

THE COVENANT THAT WAS THE LAW OF MOSES, IS GONE [1681]

God made a covenant with Israel, He entered into an agreement with them that they should keep the law, the old covenant, in which case He would look after them. But that old covenant proved to be ineffective as far as bringing about righteousness goes, and God made a new arrangement that was to take over from the old.

So the old law covenant, based on the law of Moses, has been replaced with the new covenant of faith in Jesus. The old is gone, the new has come. The law covenant has gone, the grace covenant has come.

LAW [Moses] HAS GONE, GRACE [Jesus] HAS COME.

[“For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did”]

JESUS FULFILLED THE LAW FOR US? [1543a]

Today I had a conversation with a friend who is a “Torah observer” and it ended in the usual way, in disagreement about the relevance of the law in Christianity today.

They seem to think that the only reason the Spirit was given was to enable us to ‘keep the law’. “We” (Christians) believe that the law was old covenant and is replaced with the new covenant of Grace, of the gift of the Spirit for its own sake, being now that by which (The Spirit) we don’t “keep the law”, but by which we imbibe the life itself of which the law spoke, and therefore all the positive attributes of life that it commanded were now “naturally” kept (“fruit of the Spirit”) as a result of that new life now dwelling within us, that we are now in relationship with the author of that life Himself.

Which brought about a thought, did Jesus fulfill the law* FOR me? And this appears to be one solid thing we can point to that was done on the cross as a permanent fixture of faith?

We believe that no man can be saved by keeping the law (Law simply brings a consciousness of sin). So “The law” becomes the “law of sin and death” to us. Paul called the preaching of the law, the “ministry of death”, and that the law was not made for good men but for bad. In other words, there is a place for the law, but only as a measure by which sinful living can be measured (and in context of law, seen to be condemned).

“The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and death”. So it is freedom from law, or “the” law, which liberates me into life itself, to both share in it and promote it towards others. (The intention of the law is fulfilled, is “kept”, (the “Spirit” of it) but not the physical machinations of “the law” or “law” itself).

So Jesus fulfilled the law (“He has abolished the law” says Paul) FOR US so that transgressions of it could be nullified, made of no account. He fulfilled the law in His lifetime and in His own very BODY in order to overpower and overcome “sin in the flesh” in which both He and we were participants. If Jesus did this on our behalf, it means the death which was our lot under law has been rendered inoperative if we accept this and cleave to Him, the one who freed us from it. “It” with its judgement and condemnation for sin, of the body of sin.

Therefore “sin in the flesh” may have held us in its grip of death, but since it was this very thing that Christ was appointed as a sacrifice for, then if we believe this, we can be free from the effects of sin condemnation judgement and death; and of course this was absolutely and completely the whole idea. If we do not believe it, then we are left ‘stuck’ in it, IE in sin judgement, condemnation and death. If we accept we have been freed from these things by His mercy and grace, then we will cleave to that freedom and to the given Spirit of Life.

Obviously it is not enough to simply have had the law “annulled” for us by virtue of its penalties being removed by this action, His forgiveness of them. To “remove” the law which declares our death cannot in itself, give us life, it does not automatically give everybody life, otherwise they would all first, BE alive, and secondly, would never be judged as being anything else; they could never be judged or declared to Be dead or to be IN death ever again. No, life has to be RECEIVED by virtue of that belief, otherwise the belief has something wrong with it, as in “did you receive the Spirit when you believed?”. Either the wrong thing was being believed, or the heart had not taken hold of that belief and it was still in the realm only of the mind. The Spirit of life has to be received and maintained.

This involves the shift from living in the flesh to living in the Spirit, the “crossing over from death to life”. Having the penalty of death removed from us is meaningless unless it has an affect, unless by believing this, it actually is removed from our consciousness, and that life consciousness has replaced death consciousness. This is called “faith”, and is “salvation by faith”, by BELIEVING GOD. It has been said that “believing IS receiving”, and requires the simplicity of the belief of a little child in order to apprehend it, it cannot be gained by intellectual appreciation of it although this may indeed precede it, but usually hinders it.

So God’s declaration in Christ’s body is that the operation of law flesh sin and death has been nullified FOR us, it’s as if it never was in terms of judgement and condemnation, so that which WE deserve HE has borne for us so that we can be free of it (and He BECAME the Spirit of life). In fact in the legal sense we ARE free of it, and it is by BELIEVING this TRUTH that God will hold nothing against us but that which we ourselves retain by lack of faith and trust in Him. In this sense then, it is not Him who judges and condemns us, but we ourselves who do so by refusing to choose Him and His freely given righteousness in the form of Christ’s Spirit, over ourselves and our OWN “righteousness”. We refuse to leave our death and take up His life.

So yes, Jesus fulfilled the law (in His body) and in so doing, abolished it (in His body). He did that which we were incapable of doing, and we must recognise that as a complete gift of life to us and we must accept it, accept HIM.

Law brought us to death, Jesus took that death for us so that now by faith in Him we might be free of it, Him having taken the consequence of law sin flesh death so we might regain the Spirit of life, HIS SPIRIT, by which we are given life, by faith in Him, in what He has done to return us to Himself, to who He is and therefore to who WE truly are.

The only effective adversary is that which we now willfully retain.

[..”He has come and given us an understanding…”][He became the firstborn of all creation][For the sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law, but thanks be to God who gives us the victory in Christ]

*[Later edit [Jesus’ life fulfilled the righteousness of the (law of the) Spirit of life, and his death fulfilled the righteousness of judgement (of the law) on sin and death. All accomplished in his firstly, LIVING body, and secondly (on the cross) in “this body of death” in which corruption itself [self?] was confronted and finally ‘destroyed’.]

JESUS FULFILLED THE LAW FOR US? [1543]

Today I had a conversation with a friend who is a “Torah observer” and it ended in the usual way, in disagreement about the relevance of the law in Christianity today.

They seem to think that the only reason the Spirit was given was to enable us to ‘keep the law’. “We” (Christians) believe that the law was old covenant and is replaced with the new covenant of Grace, of the gift of the Spirit for its own sake, being now that by which (The Spirit) we don’t “keep the law”, but by which we imbibe the life itself of which the law spoke, and therefore all the positive attributes of life that it commanded were now “naturally” kept (“fruit of the Spirit”) as a result of that new life now dwelling within us, that we are now in relationship with the author of that life Himself.

Which brought about a thought, did Jesus fulfill the law FOR me? And this appears to be one solid thing we can point to that was done on the cross as a permanent fixture of faith?

We believe that no man can be saved by keeping the law (Law simply brings a consciousness of sin). So “The law” becomes the “law of sin and death” to us. Paul called the preaching of the law, the “ministry of death”, and that the law was not made for good men but for bad. In other words, there is a place for the law, but only as a measure by which sinful living can be measured (and in context of law, seen to be condemned).

“The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and death”. So it is freedom from law, or “the” law, which liberates me into life itself, to both share in it and promote it towards others. (The intention of the law is fulfilled, is “kept”, (the “Spirit” of it) but not the physical machinations of “the law” or “law” itself).

So Jesus fulfilled the law (“He has abolished the law” says Paul) FOR US so that transgressions of it could be nullified, made of no account. He fulfilled the law in His lifetime and in His own very BODY in order to overpower and overcome “sin in the flesh” in which both He and we were participants. If Jesus did this on our behalf, it means the death which was our lot under law has been rendered inoperative if we accept this and cleave to Him, the one who freed us from it. “It” with its judgement and condemnation for sin, of the body of sin.

Therefore “sin in the flesh” may have held us in its grip of death, but since it was this very thing that Christ was appointed as a sacrifice for, then if we believe this, we can be free from the effects of sin condemnation judgement and death; and of course this was absolutely and completely the whole idea. If we do not believe it, then we are left ‘stuck’ in it, IE in sin judgement, condemnation and death. If we accept we have been freed from these things by His mercy and grace, then we will cleave to that freedom and to the given Spirit of Life.

Obviously it is not enough to simply have had the law “annulled” for us by virtue of its penalties being removed by this action, His forgiveness of them. To “remove” the law which declares our death cannot in itself, give us life, it does not automatically give everybody life, otherwise they would all first, BE alive, and secondly, would never be judged as being anything else; they could never be judged or declared to Be dead or to be IN death ever again. No, life has to be RECEIVED by virtue of that belief, otherwise the belief has something wrong with it, as in “did you receive the Spirit when you believed?”. Either the wrong thing was being believed, or the heart had not taken hold of that belief and it was still in the realm only of the mind. The Spirit of life has to be received and maintained.

This involves the shift from living in the flesh to living in the Spirit, the “crossing over from death to life”. Having the penalty of death removed from us is meaningless unless it has an affect, unless by believing this, it actually is removed from our consciousness, and that life consciousness has replaced death consciousness. This is called “faith”, and is “salvation by faith”, by BELIEVING GOD. It has been said that “believing IS receiving”, and requires the simplicity of the belief of a little child in order to apprehend it, it cannot be gained by intellectual appreciation of it although this may indeed precede it, but usually hinders it.

So God’s declaration in Christ’s body is that the operation of law flesh sin and death has been nullified FOR us, it’s as if it never was in terms of judgement and condemnation, so that which WE deserve HE has borne for us so that we can be free of it (and He BECAME the Spirit of life). In fact in the legal sense we ARE free of it, and it is by BELIEVING this TRUTH that God will hold nothing against us but that which we ourselves retain by lack of faith and trust in Him. In this sense then, it is not Him who judges and condemns us, but we ourselves who do so by refusing to choose Him and His freely given righteousness in the form of Christ’s Spirit, over ourselves and our OWN “righteousness”. We refuse to leave our death and take up His life.

So yes, Jesus fulfilled the law (in His body) and in so doing, abolished it (in His body). He did that which we were incapable of doing, and we must recognise that as a complete gift of life to us and we must accept it, accept HIM.

Law brought us to death, Jesus took that death for us so that now by faith in Him we might be free of it, Him having taken the consequence of law sin flesh death so we might regain the Spirit of life, HIS SPIRIT, by which we are given life, by faith in Him, in what He has done to return us to Himself, to who He is and therefore to who WE truly are.

The only effective adversary is that which we now willfully retain.

[..”He has come and given us an understanding…”][He became the firstborn of all creation][For the sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law, but thanks be to God who gives us the victory in Christ]

COMMON ERRORS [795c] (not that it matters)

1.THAT THERE IS AN IMMORTAL SOUL. There is no “immortal soul”, the “soul” is the whole person who is brought to death or life.

2.THAT WHEN YOU DIE YOU GO TO HEAVEN OR HELL. Since “heaven” is coming to earth, nobody goes to heaven, and when you die, neither do you go to hell because when you die you are dead, in the grave. [Christians are termed “asleep”, just like Lazarus was when he died][And Stephen].

3.THAT HELL IS A PLACE OF ETERNAL TORMENT. Hell has many meanings, the Old Testament one was Sheoul which was the grave. Other meanings derived from other words have other cultural significances which can be the place of the dead, and also a place of fire.

4.THAT CHRISTIANS HAVE TO OBEY THE LAW. Since Christians, or at least gentile ones, were never under the “LAW” or ever a part of the old covenant, then “obeying the law” is irrelevant. Christians are of the new covenant, inaugurated by the blood of Christ, which now deals, has dealt with their sin, and are born of the Spirit, which they follow. The old covenant, the “law” is obsolete.

5.OBEYING THE COMMANDMENTS OF CHRIST. This is a bit tricky because obviously Christians are subject to the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit. But the context of this involves the disciples in their relationship with Jesus at the time. Overall, it consists of the idea that “those who love me will be those who obey me” and that it will not be possible for anyone to obey him if they do not love him, because essentially what his commandments boiled down to, was TO LOVE. If we consider these commandments in similar fashion to the commandments of the law, we find we are not “under commandments” and we are not under any law at all, only the law of freedom that he is, and the law of the spirit of life in Him. Often used to back up the arguments of sects that we do not have the supernatural Spirit presence of God, so they can argue that it is only by the written word (which includes such “commandments”) that “Christ” is formed in us. By these arguments they destroy the whole aspect of regeneration by the returned resurrected Jesus “who became a life giving Spirit” and therefore are as bad as Roman Catholic priests who also replace the living Jesus (as high priest) reality.

6.AGAIN, THAT CHRISTIANS DO NOT POSSESS THE SPIRIT. Used by “Messianic” ‘Christians’ to argue the continuation of the law in the life of believers. The verse that says that love does no harm to its neighbour, therefore love IS THE FULFILLING of the law, is interpreted by them to mean that the fulfilling of the law is love, not the other way around. Since the whole object of things was to reproduce Jesus in men as sons of God by means of the life giving Spirit that he became, and that they then be led by this living Spirit “of God”, you can see why those who are actually opposed to the gospel, do not want to allow men to be independent of everything but God and Christ himself, because then they lose their control over them. The same thing exists with Catholicism by their continuation of the “priesthood”. Jesus is our high priest, who relates to us directly. The “veil” into the Holy of Holies has been torn,  end of story.

7.THAT JESUS WENT TO HELL AFTER THE CROSS. This is wrong because Jesus “went to hell” while he was ON the cross, [He became sin for us] and in the garden. After the cross, he was in the tomb. The “hell” that is quoted is the grave, in this case the tomb. (For three days was the sign?).

8.THAT THERE WILL BE A “MILLENNIUM” KINGDOM. The only “Kingdom” that will present itself will be the one the Anti-Christ sets up. During this time many will be deceived into thinking that Christ has returned. The rebuilding of the temple and reintroduction of animal sacrifices is what some believe will take place, but if this does occur it will be for the time of the Anti-Christ.

9.THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS ONLY FUTURISTIC. When Jesus stood amongst them, he said “you cannot discern the coming of the kingdom for lo, the kingdom of God is amongst you”. The meaning of “The second death” indicates that believers are already risen with Christ, and are “kings and priests” with him. This shows that the kingdom of God is in place and men join with it now as they join with Jesus in His resurrection, the “first resurrection”. Later the kingdom that they are, will be revealed and manifested on the new [Spiritual ] earth.

10.THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU. See 9.

11.THAT ANYTHING MATTERS APART FROM BY FAITH RISING TO NEW LIFE WITH HIM. Nothing can separate you from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus. He has removed all barriers to the simple acceptance that He has dealt with sin and death on our behalf so they are no longer consequential unless we want them to be. In other words, he has given us life and this life is in His Son. He who has the son has life, he who does not have the son (by refusal of him, of his love) does not have life. We have been declared to be his sons and daughters unless we refuse to believe Him. By denying Him we deny ourselves. LOVE is all that matters, because it is the very nature of God himself.

12.THAT THERE WILL BE ANY “SECOND CHANCES”. Christ will come again unannounced at the “time of the end” in the fire of the Spirit to prove all things by subjecting them to his Spirit which will either rescue or destroy all created matter, depending on their spiritual content or not. Spiritual life will emerge but physical matter will be dissolved. Likewise Catholic ideas of “purgatory” are nonsensical.

13.THAT YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURE AND THE GOSPEL IN “INTELLIGENT” WAYS. “Unless you accept the Kingdom of God as a little child, you will in no way enter in”. The gospel is not one of the mind, but of the heart. The “mind” of the heart will hear the Spirit and accept his love, whereas the mind of the intellect and of the flesh will reject His truth, and create its own ‘truth’ by which to deceive others and exert control over them.

E&OE.