YOU WILL ENTER THE NEXT WORLD IN THE SAME SPIRITUAL CONDITION YOU LEAVE THIS ONE [1371a]

The common theme of sects and cults and all who deviate from the central message of the true gospel, and as seen on many a TV “Christian” programme, is that of THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

They place this kingdom of God IN THE FUTURE, and other common themes are that Jesus is not divine, or at least not in the sense that TRINITARIANS would place Him. So that in this regard, they DENY THE RETURNED SPIRIT OF JESUS AS A PERSONAL “POSSESSION”.

Now fair enough that yes, the final outcome will see the fulfillment, the culmination of the gospel message in its final reality when the present physical creation vanishes and the new one emerges. AND that the hope of the Christian is for his new immortal body.

BUT

What they are hiding is that the kingdom is supposed to be revealed NOW in His people. People talk about “dying and going to heaven”, but the word says that this has already happened, that we have been risen into heaven with Christ. From where we rule with Him, NOW.

SO

They deny the full revelation that the SPIRIT has come NOW that we be empowered NOW with the fullness of  Christ.

The FULLNESS is NOW, The ‘kingdom’ is NOW, The Spirit is NOW, the resurrection is NOW.

Not so much THEN!! There will be no “then” if you do not see it happening NOW.

If they can convince you that your spiritual life is not in the PRESENT, but only in the FUTURE, then they have bound you to this life, denying you of the very power needed to fulfill your eternal life NOW.

This is why they reduce the fullness of the Spirit as seen at Pentecost, to some poor concoction of their own making, usually in the form of supposedly being as a result of bible study, or bible knowledge, of the written word.

THIS IS WHY THEY PREACH LAW, or at least disguise it in amongst what they say is “The gospel” well IT MAY BE THEIR GOSPEL, BUT NOT THE GOSPEL.

This can also be seen in an approach to Romans chapter 7, if it is represented as being a sample of the Christian life. To do this means to continue to tolerate that which Jesus has plainly destroyed so that it may be rendered powerless over us. Romans 7 teaches what we now have victory over, regardless of whether or not as individuals we “fail the test” as Paul said. The Jesus Christ to be in us is Him in His fullness, not some poor half starved version of Him.

This is a great deception and it is being pushed on us from many directions. DON’T BE FOOLED. [Or “bewitched”].

[P.S. The other common theme they use is prophesy]

YOU WILL ENTER THE NEXT WORLD IN THE SAME SPIRITUAL CONDITION YOU LEAVE THIS ONE [1371]

The common theme of sects and cults and all who deviate from the central message of the true gospel, and as seen on many a TV “Christian” programme, is that of THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

They place this kingdom of God IN THE FUTURE, and other common themes are that Jesus is not divine, or at least not in the sense that TRINITARIANS would place Him. So that in this regard, they DENY THE RETURNED SPIRIT OF JESUS AS A PERSONAL “POSSESSION”.

Now fair enough that yes, the final outcome will see the fulfillment, the culmination of the gospel message in its final reality when the present physical creation vanishes and the new one emerges. AND that the hope of the Christian is for his new immortal body.

BUT

What they are hiding is that the kingdom is supposed to be revealed NOW in His people. People talk about “dying and going to heaven”, but the word says that this has already happened, that we have been risen into heaven with Christ. From where we rule with Him, NOW.

SO

They deny the full revelation that the SPIRIT has come NOW that we be empowered NOW with the fullness of  Christ.

The FULLNESS is NOW, The ‘kingdom’ is NOW, The Spirit is NOW, the resurrection is NOW.

Not so much THEN!! There will be no “then” if you do not see it happening NOW.

If they can convince you that your spiritual life is not in the PRESENT, but only in the FUTURE, then they have bound you to this life, denying you of the very power needed to fulfill your eternal life NOW.

This is why they reduce the fullness of the Spirit as seen at Pentecost, to some poor concoction of their own making, usually in the form of supposedly being as a result of bible study, or bible knowledge, of the written word.

THIS IS WHY THEY PREACH LAW, or at least disguise it in amongst what they say is “The gospel” well IT MAY BE THEIR GOSPEL, BUT NOT THE GOSPEL.

This can also be seen in an approach to Romans chapter 7, if it is represented as being a sample of the Christian life. To do this means to continue to tolerate that which Jesus has plainly destroyed so that it may be rendered powerless over us. Romans 7 teaches what we now have victory over, regardless of whether or not as individuals we “fail the test” as Paul said. The Jesus Christ to be in us is Him in His fullness, not some poor half starved version of Him.

This is a great deception and it is being pushed on us from many directions. DON’T BE FOOLED. [Or “bewitched”].

[P.S. The other common theme they use is prophesy]

THE HEART MIND CONTRADICTION [1301]

There appears to be a contradiction running through scripture, and that is, the contradiction of the heart and the mind. It is probably the difference between the spiritual man and the carnal man. (The man without the Spirit).

It appears as the solution to the problem of why various groups contradict the accepted atonement issues. [Also they do not believe in the Spirit or that the Spirit is a “personal” gift to Christians. So how can you be led by a Spirit in whom you do not believe?]

Getting back to the point, I propose that the contradiction is, as Godet mentioned, similar to what he encountered in the 1800’s? but I can quote Him later. This issue seems to come into focus because of the perceived difference between the way the atonement is presented by scripture on the one hand, and the way Paul explains it on the other.

It seems to me that if you are going to offer someone up as sacrifice, or take the animal sacrifices for example, that the conveyed meaning would be that the animal dies so that you don’t have to, so you remain alive, it takes your place, it substitutes for you.

But on the other hand, Paul in explaining the aspects of the atonement, seems to be saying that you have to die with the subject in order to live, and that the object of the sacrifice comes to life. (Jesus). (Different to the animal ones).

This appears to me as contradictory, and although the rational mind may be able to follow Paul’s explanations so as to provide an aid to the understanding of the matter, and though this understanding may be correct, it stands in opposition to that which God intended as to how the gospel should be received. [which is why they do not receive the Spirit].

The problem takes shape in that those who reject the emotional heart desires as they arise from the spectacle of Christ on the cross, bearing their sin, which is to them non understandable and a blow to their ego because it does not allow any elbow room for them to escape the enormous ramifications and claims on their lives; they then take up Paul’s explanations of the atonement and proclaim it, the explanation, as being the ‘gospel of the atonement’.

God has aimed everything at softening the heart, because it is the heart that needs to be returned to Him, so that our desires will be for Him and for righteousness. This is why it is the message about a Father and His only beloved son. By dividing heart response from mind response, he divides the one group from the other. But it is those of the heart who are the desired ones, and those of the mind are rejected.

The ones who take the intellectual approach then turn on those of the heart, who are God’s real children, and accuse them of being inferior and unworthy and unsaved. Of having insufficient biblical knowledge, which to them becomes the saving criteria. They refuse to fellowship with the chosen ones of God who have met His criteria by surrendering their heart to His. They dare to call themselves “the truth” and “The Plain Truth” and other things, when what has happened is really the same thing that happened in Eden, when Adam refused to comply with God’s command because Adam did not have love in His heart, which is what Jesus told the Pharisees. When Adam utilises His mind to rationalise and disobey God. Jesus said that it was [only] the one who loved Him who would do what He said. Adam was the first to example this error.

It is said that when the Israelites were to sacrifice a lamb, that they had to first take it into the household and treat it like a pet, later to kill it and presumably eat it (or maybe  to burn it), sounds a bit hard on the children, but the idea was that there should be some emotional value  attached to the sacrifice, which carries out the idea of the claim made on the heart, the sensitivity issues.

There is so much scripture which when taken at face value, supports the atonement view of a life for a life as a sacrifice might be. “Through faith in His blood”, which is denied by them. They have a bag full of explanations, which, denying the face value or literal connotations, are contrivances of the mind, of the intellect, of the ego. So instead of the ego being destroyed by the overwhelming utter complete ownership of us by Him, they retain it and work on it and produce a lot of stuff which ends up in complete denial of that which God established as being the very means by which the heart could be apprehended and captured, and released from its slavery to sin.

Again I say, it is that they deny the emotional heart atonement so as to be able to follow the Pauline explanation of the atonement, thus making the explanation itself* the relevant means by which the framework of the atonement is viewed, and it is treated in that light, and that the “by faith in His blood” is not only ignored, but ridiculed, along with those who by it have been cleansed in their faith of it.

God wishes to return to Himself His people who listen to Him via their heart, not via their intellect. It may be possible to show that the whole of the bible promotes this idea, and that we stand or fall on this. It also may be possible for the whole man, heart and mind to be renewed, but God has ordained that the heart must come first because it is the seat of our desires and it is of the utmost importance that these desires, when crystallised by the cross, become captive to Him.

The test of the serpent in the garden when Adam failed, remains the same test today, where spiritual love will go down the right path but intellectualism [pride] will fall.

It comes back to what Jesus said to the Pharisees, that “you have not the love of the Father in your hearts”. Otherwise they would love the true brethren, showing themselves also to be true, but they dismiss them and treat them as, to quote the book of Revelation, “outside are the dogs”. Hopefully true understanding will come to them and they will see that all those who have love in their heart for God through Christ are true  believers.  [And all those who don’t, are not].

*[They make the explanation the experience instead of having the heart experience.]

[The conventional acceptance of His sacrifice nevertheless has the effect of us spiritually dying with Him, joining with Him on His cross anyway, in accordance with Paul’s explanation]

WHERE THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS, THERE IS FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM AND STILL MORE FREEDOM. “It is finished”.

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“And understand WITH THEIR HEART, and turn, and I would heal them.”

The cross breaks our relationship with law (marriage analogy Romans 7)

The cross is the straw that breaks the camel’s back.

“I have come to give them an understanding.”

What a high price we pay for the knowledge of good and evil.

The only thing relevant – “you do not have the love of God in your heart”.

THE DIFFICULTY OF COMMUNICATING TRUTH TO THOSE OF A FIXED MINDSET [1269a]

And this difficulty is enhanced when there is some degree of mental deficiency or aberration which serves to further fix into place the position of such mindsets.

A person I was dealing with had some mental characteristics which disallowed his analysis of long sentences which contained more than one singular aspect to them. Although intelligent in all other respects, it was almost impossible to to logically convey information to him which lay outside of his mindset.

Another person who suffers from Asperger’s syndrome was also unable to see outside of his fixed world in which he was the king around whom everyone else was considered subservient. There appears to be a condition in such people that involves them being unable to verbally reproduce their thoughts because what logic they construct in their minds is not what comes out of their mouths so that effective communication is impossible.

A minister at a church I used to attend recently announced to his congregation that he had discovered that you don’t go to heaven when you die. This created some degree of disquiet among the congregation who then wanted to know where their loved ones had gone if not to heaven. I found this somewhat ironic because it was at this same church many years ago where among other reasons, I had felt sufficiently that my continuing position was compromised because one of the louder women at a bible study I attended there, ridiculed me for saying similar things.

Religious mindsets are among the hardest to alter, as Jesus also found with the religious types of His day, because they can be the ‘last ditch’ refuge of the flesh in its attempts to shore up its failing position. This is the source of all cults, sects and wold religions.

Truth is a reality of the Spirit of the true God. All else is falseness and of the lie.

THE DIFFICULTY OF COMMUNICATING TRUTH TO THOSE OF A FIXED MINDSET [1269]

And this difficulty is enhanced when there is some degree of mental deficiency or aberration which serves to further fix into place the position of such mindsets.

A person I was dealing with had some mental characteristics which disallowed his analysis of long sentences which contained more than one singular aspect to them. Although intelligent in all other respects, it was almost impossible to to logically convey information to him which lay outside of his mindset.

Another person who suffers from Asperger’s syndrome was also unable to see outside of his fixed world in which he was the king around whom everyone else was considered subservient. There appears to be a condition in such people that involves them being unable to verbally reproduce their thoughts because what logic they construct in their minds is not what comes out of their mouths so that effective communication is impossible.

A minister at a church I used to attend recently announced to his congregation that he had discovered that you don’t go to heaven when you die. This created some degree of disquiet among the congregation who then wanted to know where their loved ones had gone if not to heaven. I found this somewhat ironic because it was at this same church many years ago where among other reasons, I had felt sufficiently that my continuing position was compromised because one of the louder women at a bible study I attended there, ridiculed me for saying similar things.

Religious mindsets are among the hardest to alter, as Jesus also found with the religious types of His day, because they can be the ‘last ditch’ refuge of the flesh in its attempts to shore up its failing position. This is the source of all cults, sects and wold religions.

Truth is a reality of the Spirit of the true God. All else is falseness and of the lie.

THOSE WHO DENY THE CHRIST IN OTHERS ARE DENYING CHRIST HIMSELF [1182a]

If we were all happy campers in Christ, there would be no problem. But there are those who set themselves up as judge jury and executioner, who decide, for their own reasons, that most who have claimed salvation in Christ are not worthy of it, of Him.

This is not done on the basis of any evidence that they are not living up to the name, but purely on the basis of their own preconception and preoccupation with what TRUTH is, that unless people think the same way that THEY do and that it is a reflection of THEIR doctrines, then they cannot be saved.

They gather to themselves those who consider themselves to be above “the norm”, above some of the greatest thinkers and greatest theological minds available, past and present, while at the same time dismissing those on the other end of the scale, them being the ones who have accepted Jesus in a “simple” kind of way, silly people who BELIEVED WHAT THEY HEARD, and took Jesus into their hearts. [yes, that’s sarcasm]

And not only do they dismiss others in this way, they also dismiss members of their own assemblies or “ecclesias” who go against the tight and rigid structure they have built up  on the basis of their “founders”, who like all such “founders” of all such groups, have historically been shown to be sadly ASTRAY.

Jesus said that whatever we do or do not do to the lowliest of people, we are doing to Him also.

When these people claim in their books that they will be the ones to physically execute those who (in their opinion) have failed the criteria to be a Christian, when Christ returns, this is nothing but the same attitude they exhibit NOW towards Christians at large as well as their own people who dare to disagree with them, and whom they happily shun or eject from their meetings as if they were lepers.

Shame on them and any of us who fail to recognise that God is love, and when people exhibit the fruit of that love, they are revealing the Christ that lives in them also. To reject them is to reject Christ Himself, as they are going to discover when He returns, and are themselves in turn rejected by Him.

[And they are denying Christ within themselves]

 

THOSE WHO DENY THE CHRIST IN OTHERS ARE DENYING CHRIST HIMSELF [1182]

If we were all happy campers in Christ, there would be no problem. But there are those who set themselves up as judge jury and executioner, who decide, for their own reasons, that most who have claimed salvation in Christ are not worthy of it, of Him.

This is not done on the basis of any evidence that they are not living up to the name, but purely on the basis of their own preconception and preoccupation with what TRUTH is, that unless people think the same way that THEY do and that it is a reflection of THEIR doctrines, then they cannot be saved.

They gather to themselves those who consider themselves to be above “the norm”, above some of the greatest thinkers and greatest theological minds available, past and present, while at the same time dismissing those on the other end of the scale, them being the ones who have accepted Jesus in a “simple” kind of way, silly people who BELIEVED WHAT THEY HEARD, and took Jesus into their hearts. [yes, that’s sarcasm]

And not only do they dismiss others in this way, they also dismiss members of their own assemblies or “ecclesias” who go against the tight and rigid structure they have built up  on the basis of their “founders”, who like all such “founders” of all such groups, have historically been shown to be sadly ASTRAY.

Jesus said that whatever we do or do not do to the lowliest of people, we are doing to Him also.

When these people claim in their books that they will be the ones to physically execute those who (in their opinion) have failed the criteria to be a Christian, when Christ returns, this is nothing but the same attitude they exhibit NOW towards Christians at large as well as their own people who dare to disagree with them, and whom they happily shun or eject from their meetings as if they were lepers.

Shame on them and any of us who fail to recognise that God is love, and when people exhibit the fruit of that love, they are revealing the Christ that lives in them also. To reject them is to reject Christ Himself, as they are going to discover when He returns, and are themselves in turn rejected by Him.

[And they are denying Christ within themselves]

 

YOU DON’T HAVE TO TRY TO BE CHILDREN OF GOD [1064a]

Many people are TRYING to be children of God, and many groups assist this wrongness of thinking because it is to their personal advantage to promulgate the gospel in such a way.

We don’t have to TRY to be His children, because we ALREADY ARE His children, and it is the TRYING that He loathes. For thousands of years He has been TRYING to get the message across that we belong to HIM. In the last days He sent His Son to speak to us to clarify the situation and to give us an understanding of the truth that WE ARE HIS [creation] and we are His children, some naughtier than others, but the main thing is for us to own His ownership of us instead of denying it and HIM.

It is the denying of His ownership [parentage] of us that denies us our birthright of eternal life with Him. When we surrender our self ownership to Him, we cease to be the “naughty” children, and become instead, the “nice” children. The difference though is that of life and death. If we continue to try and run our own lives, we continue to run them into destruction. If we allow HIM to run them, His supernatural presence will control and guide us in HIS ways of loving forgiveness that will mean life for all. For those around us and all those we come in contact with, just like Jesus did.

You ARE a child of God, but you can continue to deny it BY your “trying” to be one. Accept that you are His. He has now “bought” you with the life of His Son. He has purchased you with the ‘blood of the lamb’, a costly self sacrifice to bring life to all who will ACCEPT it and Him along with it. Life is a gift, we have to accept it (Him) as a child, with Him being our Father. We are already His children.

[“What must we do, to do the work of God?” “This is the work of God, to BELIEVE in the one whom He has sent“]

YOU DON’T HAVE TO TRY TO BE CHILDREN OF GOD [1064]

Many people are TRYING to be children of God, and many groups assist this wrongness of thinking because it is to their personal advantage to promulgate the gospel in such a way.

We don’t have to TRY to be His children, because we ALREADY ARE His children, and it is the TRYING that He loathes. For thousands of years He has been TRYING to get the message across that we belong to HIM. In the last days He sent His Son to speak to us to clarify the situation and to give us an understanding of the truth that WE ARE HIS [creation] and we are His children, some naughtier than others, but the main thing is for us to own His ownership of us instead of denying it and HIM.

It is the denying of His ownership [parentage] of us that denies us our birthright of eternal life with Him. When we surrender our self ownership to Him, we cease to be the “naughty” children, and become instead, the “nice” children. The difference though is that of life and death. If we continue to try and run our own lives, we continue to run them into destruction. If we allow HIM to run them, His supernatural presence will control and guide us in HIS ways of loving forgiveness that will mean life for all. For those around us and all those we come in contact with, just like Jesus did.

You ARE a child of God, but you can continue to deny it BY your “trying” to be one. Accept that you are His. He has now “bought” you with the life of His Son. He has purchased you with the ‘blood of the lamb’, a costly self sacrifice to bring life to all who will ACCEPT it and Him along with it. Life is a gift, we have to accept it (Him) as a child, with Him being our Father. We are already His children.

[“What must we do, to do the work of God?” “This is the work of God, to BELIEVE in the one whom He has sent“]

THE SPIRIT OF ERROR WANTS TO DEPRIVE MAN OF REUNITING WITH GOD AS A SON [919a]

Since the time of Adam, man’s problem appears to be that he was made in the image of God, when he really needed to be made in the image of the son of God. Since salvation results in the Spirit of Christ in the believer, in other words that God is now in correct perspective, being “Father” and not “God” [in the words of Jesus from the cross], and this amounts to the Spirit of the son (Holy Spirit) now residing inside us, then this is what any “enemy” would want to prevent from happening.

And that is exactly how it is – that sects and cults distort both the cross and forgiveness* by making them conditional and subject to conditions of their own making, and then claim these conditions as being legitimate. They will do anything to prevent man reconciling with God by the Spirit of God, to prevent him from containing the Holy Spirit, because being a vessel containing the Spirit is the very condition that arises from rebirth. So to destroy the truth they will introduce any possible lie that sounds rational and logical [intellectually] and which will have the effect of altering the correct description of what Jesus did for us and what the effect of that is on us and in us.

Man reconciled to God and containing the Spirit of His son is the last thing that any enemy of God wants to happen. To know God is to know forgiveness and love and this only occurs through the Spirit of the cross. To attack either the cross or the Spirit in terms of their correct meaning and application is to actively work at sabotaging God’s redemptive plan.

[“…and understand with the HEART, and turn, and I would heal them”][1 Cor. 15-49. Rom 8-29. 2 Cor. 3-18] Bearing the image of the Son.][*And also the Spirit]