CREATION OR EVOLUTION ENTHUSIASTS MISS THE POINT [1261a]

So much energy is being put into arguing creation versus evolution, when the main thing that matters is a “new creation in Christ”. Regardless of the old creation’s origins or destination, it only exists for the purpose of producing the human species so they can then further advance into the fullness of the new creation, by faith in Jesus, who pioneered this new “species”, this new creation.

Whether “the [old] creation itself will be liberated into the glorious freedom  of the liberty of the children of God”, is not the point. We are given to understand that, in effect, the old creation is to be destroyed and human kind with it. That God’s process of progression will result in the destruction of heaven and earth by fire, during which the new creation will emerge.

Many people “worship” the old creation [rather than the Creator] by reverencing its nature and by crying foul as it descends into decay and corruption by the interference and contamination that mankind has brought to it. But it, like the human body itself, is only there to serve as host to the Spirit of life for as long as God has decided it will, its end coming amidst much “tribulation” which will see “man’s heart failing for fear of what is coming upon the earth”.

Although the natural creation as we know it is a beautiful thing and it is sad to see its demise, and not denying a certain responsibility towards its preservation, Christians should not pursue endless arguments that do not directly benefit the building and establishing of the new creation as a priority before the old. I do not consider the creation/evolution argument as being a worthwhile one to pursue when there are so many other more important aspects to bring to people’s attention, that may be more likely to open their hearts to love, rather than just another simple intellectual series of mental aspirations which like so many others, can be simply ego building on the part of those who indulge in them.

CREATION OR EVOLUTION ENTHUSIASTS MISS THE POINT [1261]

So much energy is being put into arguing creation versus evolution, when the main thing that matters is a “new creation in Christ”. Regardless of the old creation’s origins or destination, it only exists for the purpose of producing the human species so they can then further advance into the fullness of the new creation, by faith in Jesus, who pioneered this new “species”, this new creation.

Whether “the [old] creation itself will be liberated into the glorious freedom  of the liberty of the children of God”, is not the point. We are given to understand that, in effect, the old creation is to be destroyed and human kind with it. That God’s process of progression will result in the destruction of heaven and earth by fire, during which the new creation will emerge.

Many people “worship” the old creation [rather than the Creator] by reverencing its nature and by crying foul as it descends into decay and corruption by the interference and contamination that mankind has brought to it. But it, like the human body itself, is only there to serve as host to the Spirit of life for as long as God has decided it will, its end coming amidst much “tribulation” which will see “man’s heart failing for fear of what is coming upon the earth”.

Although the natural creation as we know it is a beautiful thing and it is sad to see its demise, and not denying a certain responsibility towards its preservation, Christians should not pursue endless arguments that do not directly benefit the building and establishing of the new creation as a priority before the old. I do not consider the creation/evolution argument as being a worthwhile one to pursue when there are so many other more important aspects to bring to people’s attention, that may be more likely to open their hearts to love, rather than just another simple intellectual series of mental aspirations which like so many others, can be simply ego building on the part of those who indulge in them.

THE FIRST RESURRECTION [1k]

Christian belief has it that there are two basic resurrections, the “Judgment seat of Christ”, and the “Great white throne”.

These are taken from the book of Revelation.   (it is also said there is a resurrection of the just and the unjust)

However, greater importance regarding resurrection, arises because Revelation also says, “Those who take part in the first resurrection will not be harmed by the second death”.

It can be reasonably discovered that the “First Resurrection” is actually when people become Christians, when they are “born again”. These are those who are not harmed by the true (second) death that follows natural (first) death, they are unharmed by the spiritual judgment that is to come, because they have already accepted their judgment in Christ*, and so their death (judgment) has already taken place in Christ, just as they have also “risen with him”.**

In Revelation, the commonly accepted “Judgement seat of Christ”, can only be where, in common with all creation, they will be subjected to the proof testing of their spiritual position, by “fire”. Christians will emerge from this in varying degrees according to the good they have done on earth. The “Great White Throne” is said to be the general mass of humanity, where it has to be assumed they will not survive, this being the “Second Death”.

So though the “Judgement seat of Christ” may actually precede the “Great White Throne” judgement, the greater meaning is obtained from understanding that Christians, who have taken part in “The First Resurrection”, as “born again” believers on this earth, will not be harmed by the “Second Death”, which is that judgement which will come upon the whole of creation and where the chaff will be burnt up and the wheat survive.

“Our God is a consuming fire”, When Christ returns, he will come, in flaming judgement, upon all. That which is of him, compatible with his nature, will be assumed into him. That which does not contain his nature or substance, will be consumed by him. It says that those who disbelieve stand self condemned. “This is the judgement, that they believe not…”

By refusing to accept God as Supreme creator, and his sacrificed son as true redeemer, they continue their separation (“willingly ignorant”) from God. Separation occurred when Adam disobeyed and went his own way. Now God offers reconciliation and a free “ticket” to return to him, just like “The Prodigal Son”. The cross was his forgiveness offered to all, but only those who believe will actually “take advantage” of that offer, the rest will remain “dead”. The judgement is simply confirmation of that death they are already in.

This “fire” is seen as the “Wrath” of God. In fact, it is simply his nature of love which, being incompatible with anything that is NOT love, will by natural consequence of incompatibility, annul or destroy it. Men in their lives, via their consciences, feel this “wrath” of God, which is really the consciousness of their separation from God, and their subsequent “hiding” from the reality of what this really means. They are hiding from their punishment, judgement, and death. In this state they are confused by the deceitfulness necessary to cover up their “sin”, they hide in the lie, and cannot stand the truth.

Those who take part in the first resurrection, will also reign with Christ while they are on the earth, as “kings and priests” , doing God’s will “on earth, as it is in heaven”. Denial of this is part of the deception that some are caught up in, where they believe that in the kingdom to come, even animal sacrifices will be reinstated. But this is small error compared with what some of them do to the cross, where major error holds them in captivity to the flesh, as they deny the totality of Christ’s victory on our behalf. [just have to add a comment to repudiate the idea that there will be a literal 1000 year reign of Christ, once he returns. This period is figurative, and denotes the time roughly between Christ’s first and second coming].

Captivity to sin through the flesh is via the law, which Christ has satisfied on our behalf. Paul said the law was “temporary” until Christ had come, and, “now that Christ has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law”. He also said, “He has abolished the law”. there are those who assert that we should be keeping all the law, and so want bondage to continue. The freedom of the Spirit is a rare and precious thing, and not to be given up so easily as to fall for this one.

Major error exists in Romans chapter seven, where Paul, speaking as one under bondage to sin through the law, is taught as being a Christian, (even an apostle) while he was in a position of total captivity and wretchedness such as to cry out “Who will deliver me from this body of death”. [similar in a way to Christ’s cry “My God why have you abandoned me”]. Both of them were in a very dark place, and to place Paul as being a Christian is just so wrong on every level. [This dark place is to be seen as the darkness of sin, of broken relationship with God].  [they were both under “wrath”.]

EDIT Someone has said that the first resurrection is actually Christ’s. This makes sense because of verses like “we are raised with him” and so has a more direct connection to things. Rather than isolating believers as the group who make up the first resurrection, (which they do), it ties them to the one who IS the resurrection. (“I am the resurrection”). It also strengthens verses about baptism (buried with him, raised with him). He also may have provided further information that strengthens my prevailing view that there is only one event that encompasses all the common beliefs regarding resurrection and judgement and supposed millenniums etc and reduces them to this one return of Christ in fire. [although I have problems with his “souls” aspect, the rest seems pretty good.]. https://wordwatchman.wordpress.com/the-first-resurrection/  [LATER EDIT those who “take part in”, participate in, are participants in; not so much the first resurrection as the event of their own “spiritual” resurrection, so much as being participants in HIS resurrection]

*Latest edit [And so also transferring this to within themselves by the empathy involved]**[And He has risen in them][‘Until the dawn star rises in your heart’]

First published before May 2015 ( The First Resurrection)

Cresurrection

IT IS EASIER TO BELIEVE IN THE PAST THAN THE FUTURE [1242a]

It is easier to believe in something that has already happened, than something which is supposed to happen in the future. Though time and distortion of truth may dull the impact of an historical event, it is still easier to believe in than something that is supposed to happen futuristically.

Therefore God brought the end into view prematurely, on the cross. He made the ending as a past event, thereby portraying OUR future ‘before our eyes’.

The life of Jesus and the three crosses reveal what is to happen ‘at the end’. Life or death is there for all to see, along with the King and His subjects, one willing to believe, the other unwilling.

The lives that have been lived are represented as a thief, a murderer, and a saviour [God].

So which one are we? When confronted with the gospel, do we recognise ourselves in that scenario? Do we admit to guilt and own up to it like the thief and be rescued, or do we deny the truth and refuse intervention for it like the murderer did, when we are confronted with innocence crucified, both His and our own.

Even as we see the sin of the world being borne in His body, we probably fail to see this as “Armageddon” happening in Him, to Him. That there is a conflict going on inside Him which is righteousness versus unrighteousness, His righteous spirit in conflict with the unrighteousness of the flesh which is also OUR flesh, until His spirit wins out and flesh is brought into line by the healing power that He is, by the fire of that spirit, which dealt with all that was wrong with we of the ‘first creation’, that of flesh and blood.

His nature, the same as ours, was perfected on that cross in full view of men, not that they knew it at the time, that the firstborn of all creation had just perfected all of creation for all time, unless their will denied it, prevented it from happening, in them at least.

At the end of time, very soon now, God’s Spirit will return in force to His creation to subject it to examination by the fire of the love that He is, to recover to himself that which also is now of the nature of His love, of His Son. That which is not compatible with His Spiritual fire will be consumed by it and destroyed, which is the same thing which happened to Jesus on the cross, the fire of his Spirit consumed the inner failures of the flesh and in the process, liberated both His Spirit and His body to immortality.

Our spirit, unless it is tied to HIS Spirit, can not of itself overpower the flesh, having already been overpowered by it. Only by joining with Him can we be saved from  destruction by the Spirit, by the righteousness He gives to us and our mortal bodies, as we allow Him to work in us to destroy and change what is unworthy, so that it becomes worthy.

John says that believers have already been judged, having entered into the judgement of the cross, have accepted the condemnation on the flesh that Jesus took on our behalf, and by denying themselves spirit flesh body and all, have by faith in Him entered into the victory which He achieved for everyone. They have by this, “crossed over from death to life”.

IT IS EASIER TO BELIEVE IN THE PAST THAN THE FUTURE [1242]

It is easier to believe in something that has already happened, than something which is supposed to happen in the future. Though time and distortion of truth may dull the impact of an historical event, it is still easier to believe in than something that is supposed to happen futuristically.

Therefore God brought the end into view prematurely, on the cross. He made the ending as a past event, thereby portraying OUR future ‘before our eyes’.

The life of Jesus and the three crosses reveal what is to happen ‘at the end’. Life or death is there for all to see, along with the King and His subjects, one willing to believe, the other unwilling.

The lives that have been lived are represented as a thief, a murderer, and a saviour [God].

So which one are we? When confronted with the gospel, do we recognise ourselves in that scenario? Do we admit to guilt and own up to it like the thief and be rescued, or do we deny the truth and refuse intervention for it like the murderer did, when we are confronted with innocence crucified, both His and our own.

Even as we see the sin of the world being borne in His body, we probably fail to see this as “Armageddon” happening in Him, to Him. That there is a conflict going on inside Him which is righteousness versus unrighteousness, His righteous spirit in conflict with the unrighteousness of the flesh which is also OUR flesh, until His spirit wins out and flesh is brought into line by the healing power that He is, by the fire of that spirit, which dealt with all that was wrong with we of the ‘first creation’, that of flesh and blood.

His nature, the same as ours, was perfected on that cross in full view of men, not that they knew it at the time, that the firstborn of all creation had just perfected all of creation for all time, unless their will denied it, prevented it from happening, in them at least.

At the end of time, very soon now, God’s Spirit will return in force to His creation to subject it to examination by the fire of the love that He is, to recover to himself that which also is now of the nature of His love, of His Son. That which is not compatible with His Spiritual fire will be consumed by it and destroyed, which is the same thing which happened to Jesus on the cross, the fire of his Spirit consumed the inner failures of the flesh and in the process, liberated both His Spirit and His body to immortality.

Our spirit, unless it is tied to HIS Spirit, can not of itself overpower the flesh, having already been overpowered by it. Only by joining with Him can we be saved from  destruction by the Spirit, by the righteousness He gives to us and our mortal bodies, as we allow Him to work in us to destroy and change what is unworthy, so that it becomes worthy.

John says that believers have already been judged, having entered into the judgement of the cross, have accepted the condemnation on the flesh that Jesus took on our behalf, and by denying themselves spirit flesh body and all, have by faith in Him entered into the victory which He achieved for everyone. They have by this, “crossed over from death to life”.

IT IS WE WHO NEED AN ATONEMENT, NOT GOD. [1214b]

God needs nothing, wants for nothing. The ones who are in need are we who were born into this realm of flesh and death. God does not ‘demand a sacrifice’ for sin, to the contrary, He provides one for us who are sinners.

We who are in effect “the promised land”, have, by His atonement, had our ‘enemies’ kicked out of the land before us. God executed a ‘scorched  earth policy’ insofar as us taking over the land goes. But really it is WE who are the enemy to ourselves, WE have built up this ‘debt to sin’, WE have erected cities and towers in defiance of His decrees and demands for peace, for stability, for a place where all can exist side by side in harmony.

The cross scorched the earth for us, in Jesus’ body the burning out of sin* took place so that the ‘high place’ or heaven might dwell in us, so that His renewed Spirit could become ours, that He might now dwell in us. But to occupy this reluctant body, it had to be “destroyed” in its original makeup, and reconstituted again as a host for His Spirit to possess.

He put to death that which was earthly in HIM**, so that we might claim His death to our advantage in providing scorched earth on which to build anew. We JOIN Him in this new venture, His Spirit now alive in us as we perform a ‘mopping up’ operation with Him as we continue to “put to death” that which may continue, through our lack of faith, to be  earthly in us, scorched though it may be.

*[inherent sin nature of man][God will provide a lamb my son]**[His body]

IT IS WE WHO NEED AN ATONEMENT, NOT GOD. [1214a]

God needs nothing, wants for nothing. The ones who are in need are we who were born into this realm of flesh and death. God does not ‘demand a sacrifice’ for sin, to the contrary, He provides one for us who are sinners.

We who are in effect “the promised land”, have, by His atonement, had our ‘enemies’ kicked out of the land before us. God executed a ‘scorched  earth policy’ insofar as us taking over the land goes. But really it is WE who are the enemy to ourselves, WE have built up this ‘debt to sin’, WE have erected cities and towers in defiance of His decrees and demands for peace, for stability, for a place where all can exist side by side in harmony.

The cross scorched the earth for us, in Jesus’ body the burning out of sin* took place so that the ‘high place’ or heaven might dwell in us, so that His renewed Spirit could become ours, that He might now dwell in us. But to occupy this reluctant body, it had to be “destroyed” in its original makeup, and reconstituted again as a host for His Spirit to possess.

He put to death that which was earthly in HIM**, so that we might claim His death to our advantage in providing scorched earth on which to build anew. We JOIN Him in this new venture, His Spirit now alive in us as we perform a ‘mopping up’ operation with Him as we continue to “put to death” that which may continue, through our lack of faith, to be  earthly in us, scorched though it may be.

*[inherent sin nature of man][God will provide a lamb my son]**[His body]

IT IS WE WHO NEED AN ATONEMENT, NOT GOD. [1214]

God needs nothing, wants for nothing. The ones who are in need are we who were born into this realm of flesh and death. God does not ‘demand a sacrifice’ for sin, to the contrary, He provides one for us who are sinners.

We who are in effect “the promised land”, have, by His atonement, had our ‘enemies’ kicked out of the land before us. God executed a ‘scorched  earth policy’ insofar as us taking over the land goes. But really it is WE who are the enemy to ourselves, WE have built up this ‘debt to sin’, WE have erected cities and towers in defiance of His decrees and demands for peace, for stability, for a place where all can exist side by side in harmony.

The cross scorched the earth for us, in Jesus’ body the burning out of sin* took place so that the ‘high place’ or heaven might dwell in us, so that His renewed Spirit could become ours, that He might now dwell in us. But to occupy this reluctant body, it had to be “destroyed” in its original makeup, and reconstituted again as a host for His Spirit to possess.

He put to death that which was earthly in HIM**, so that we might claim His death to our advantage in providing scorched earth on which to build anew. We JOIN Him in this new venture, His Spirit now alive in us as we perform a ‘mopping up’ operation with Him as we continue to “put to death” that which may continue, through our lack of faith, to be  earthly in us, scorched though it may be.

*[inherent sin nature of man][God will provide a lamb my son]**[His body]

THOUGH THE LAW CANNOT SAVE, THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OR UNRIGHTEOUSNESS OF WHICH IT SPEAKS IS STILL TRUE [1210a]

Where once law was the basis for the understanding of what is right and what is wrong, the moral aspect still remains a statement of right and wrong even though it has been surpassed by the knowledge of the Spirit.

Without quoting Paul, there are lists of things considered to be wrong, in the sense that they are outside of the sphere of righteousness which reflects the nature of God. Anything which does not consist of what amounts to God’s holiness is unacceptable and will be consumed by fire on the last day. “Our God is a consuming fire”.

“Love does no harm to its neighbour, therefore love is the fulfilling of the law”. LOVE is the very nature of God, and to do no harm to one’s neighbour is to act in accordance with the nature of love, who is God, who is the Spirit. Some people who want the law to continue to govern the affairs of men, try to interpret this passage as saying that it is the fulfilling of the law which is love, but no, it is that when you love, you are fulfilling the “law” of doing good to all, of displaying and exercising righteousness towards your neighbour.

Scripture speaks of things natural and things unnatural, and mentions the length of a man’s hair, and also refers to women’s hair. Though hair itself, like circumcision and other customs and various observances are now of no consequence, what is considered to be natural or unnatural still remains and is eternally binding insofar as it is naturally  in line with God, or is unnaturally not in line with God, with His nature, with His love.

To try and explain this may be difficult, but what it amounts to perhaps is that if we were to consider mankind to be on the base of a pyramid, then all that is above that base line as it progresses towards the top of the pyramid, amounts to the affairs of men, and the nature of man, and only when the peak is reached at the very top, can we see the nature of God as being that tiny spot which alone is holy, righteous and good. Everything else is below par, is contaminated with that which is not of God. Only that which emanates from the peak, the very point at the top, is acceptable to God, being that it came from Him and His nature in the first place.

That which is grown of the seed of God will reach into the maturity that He requires, and will in no way contradict any of the truly moral laws that have gone before, since they were Spirit derived even though they are not in themselves, Spirit, and it is necessary to please God, that we now contain within us His very Spirit, life, or essence of being, which is called Christ.  The decisions and choices we make are now to come from that renewed conscience as cleansed by “the blood of the lamb”, and not from written down precepts or concepts as decided by another, even though that “other” be God. It is unacceptable to be of a nature that is not also God’s nature, and to have this nature we must contain within us, in us, the nature, the Spirit of His Son.

All that has gone before us was to teach us right from wrong, as it became imbedded in our guilty consciences, so that, when released from this, we knew ultimate right from wrong as the Spirit of it all, the returned to us Jesus, then wrote it down on and in our hearts, in the form of His love.

The Spirit Himself will inform you of this, unless potentially like some of the Corinthians, you may have received a “different” spirit, a “different” gospel. But “The Spirit of truth will lead you into all truth”. God is holy and pure, and even nature itself is able to teach you what this means. “Outside are the dogs”.

THOUGH THE LAW CANNOT SAVE, THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OR UNRIGHTEOUSNESS OF WHICH IT SPEAKS IS STILL TRUE [1210]

Where once law was the basis for the understanding of what is right and what is wrong, the moral aspect still remains a statement of right and wrong even though it has been surpassed by the knowledge of the Spirit.

Without quoting Paul, there are lists of things considered to be wrong, in the sense that they are outside of the sphere of righteousness which reflects the nature of God. Anything which does not consist of what amounts to God’s holiness is unacceptable and will be consumed by fire on the last day. “Our God is a consuming fire”.

“Love does no harm to its neighbour, therefore love is the fulfilling of the law”. LOVE is the very nature of God, and to do no harm to one’s neighbour is to act in accordance with the nature of love, who is God, who is the Spirit. Some people who want the law to continue to govern the affairs of men, try to interpret this passage as saying that it is the fulfilling of the law which is love, but no, it is that when you love, you are fulfilling the “law” of doing good to all, of displaying and exercising righteousness towards your neighbour.

Scripture speaks of things natural and things unnatural, and mentions the length of a man’s hair, and also refers to women’s hair. Though hair itself, like circumcision and other customs and various observances are now of no consequence, what is considered to be natural or unnatural still remains and is eternally binding insofar as it is naturally  in line with God, or is unnaturally not in line with God, with His nature, with His love.

To try and explain this may be difficult, but what it amounts to perhaps is that if we were to consider mankind to be on the base of a pyramid, then all that is above that base line as it progresses towards the top of the pyramid, amounts to the affairs of men, and the nature of man, and only when the peak is reached at the very top, can we see the nature of God as being that tiny spot which alone is holy, righteous and good. Everything else is below par, is contaminated with that which is not of God. Only that which emanates from the peak, the very point at the top, is acceptable to God, being that it came from Him and His nature in the first place.

That which is grown of the seed of God will reach into the maturity that He requires, and will in no way contradict any of the truly moral laws that have gone before, since they were Spirit derived even though they are not in themselves, Spirit, and it is necessary to please God, that we now contain within us His very Spirit, life, or essence of being, which is called Christ.  The decisions and choices we make are now to come from that renewed conscience as cleansed by “the blood of the lamb”, and not from written down precepts or concepts as decided by another, even though that “other” be God. It is unacceptable to be of a nature that is not also God’s nature, and to have this nature we must contain within us, in us, the nature, the Spirit of His Son.

All that has gone before us was to teach us right from wrong, as it became imbedded in our guilty consciences, so that, when released from this, we knew ultimate right from wrong as the Spirit of it all, the returned to us Jesus, then wrote it down on and in our hearts, in the form of His love.

The Spirit Himself will inform you of this, unless potentially like some of the Corinthians, you may have received a “different” spirit, a “different” gospel. But “The Spirit of truth will lead you into all truth”. God is holy and pure, and even nature itself is able to teach you what this means. “Outside are the dogs”.