THE TRUE HEART OF MAN [16b]

Deep inside all people is the longing for love, true love. Covering this, is the near absolute power of the flesh, and sin, to prevent access to this position and place of love.

It is the sense of condemnation, of purposelessness, of darkness and loneliness, of isolation, that sends people spiralling down into the well of death.

What knowledge and experience is gained, may be for “better or worse”, depending on what we end up being married to in life, the good or the bad.

The spiritual reality of all this depends on the communicative power of God towards us, and the resistance offered to that communication. “God has not left himself without witness”?

People born into this world are familiarised with sin, which is our description of bad stuff that contaminates our world and lives. To find anything that lifts man up and promotes “peace and goodwill”, has to be beneficial, in one way.

But what if world religions leave people “content” [semi-content] with their lot, maybe because they have not been confronted with the notion of a perfect God, or they have been blinded to the relationship between God’s love for his family, and our relationship to our families?

And even some “Christian” “Faiths” have to be included in this because of their legalistic attitudes.

One wonders about cultural impacts that divide natural affections through misplaced concepts and traditions that effectively erect barriers to the freedom of thinking that the better parts of our western Christian culture have enabled for so many years.

If they have not been confronted with the God we are aware of, even through the law that was handed to Moses, then they may remain frustrated because  the barriers of their traditional customs keep them remote from the principle of a forgiving God. And this frustration may boil over into social problems.

So the deep sense of, and desire for, Love, needs to be satisfied in order to inspire the best of life in mankind. Only love can  reveal the true purpose set forth for man’s existence, and that is, to be a part of love, to be joined to love, and to live for love. And so far, there appears to be only one God of [true] love in sight.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him should not die, but live forever.

THE CROSS [5][5]b

This is an earlier version (May 31, 2015) which I omitted to include near “Cross power” [5], so please forgive any perceived difficulties.

The cross of Christ stands like a beacon in history. It is the means of an invisible eternal and supernatural God’s way of communicating with us his creative plan for mankind.

While many find it as the answer for their life, others ignore it or ridicule it. Amongst the detractors, are those who purport to be supporters, but in their explanations of it, they either accidentally or wantonly, destroy the power of the cross by giving it some meaning that is not true, or is distorted beyond accepted values.

Paul speaks about the simplicity of the cross, and how by varying from the simple straightforward delivery of its truth, into some explanation that is trying to cater for a more intellectual audience, the power of it is destroyed, since it is meant to strike the heart with a self realisation of conviction of sin and empathy for man’s condition.

The truth is, that the traditional teaching about the cross is pretty much how it is, but certain groups change it by offering explanations of the text whereby they deny the plain literality  of it in order to twist and shift its impact into something more acceptable to their doctrinal tastes.

Where it says that “he himself bore our sins in his body on the tree”, they will argue about the translation and the words and the context and the symbolism and the allegorical meaning and that a tree has no cross beam and etc. ad nauseum.

“He became sin for us”. Now, I don’t know how you are supposed to understand that from a literal point of view; it is easy to say that it was not literal, but instead was a literary device, a metaphor, and all the rest of it. The reality of these two verses is simply this. If you don’t understand what really happened on that cross, then you will have to duck and weave away from these verses as well as others. “One died for all, therefore all died”. Now we know that we didn’t actually die, because we are still here.

So there is some reason to understand some wording. But where the cross is preached, it is the impact of the words on the heart that is important. If you go messing with this then you destroy the impact, because you shift the focus from the heart to the head, and by so doing, shift the focus from an instinctive inner emotional knowledge kind of thing, into the realm of the mind and logic, and inevitably into the realm of the flesh, and consequently away from God.

It is in the heart of man that the true knowledge of our relationship or otherwise, with God, is understood. It is the emotional impact that most powerfully initiates our responses, since in the heart lie the matters of life and death, of love and fear.

There are many cross or “atonement” “theories”. Commonly is substitution, but there is also “representation” and a host of other variables. These are all just names and explanations, mostly of logic, that more appeal to the “thinking” person. But the reality lies in whatever the truth of the matter is.

So what happened on the cross? As someone once said, he wasn’t just hanging up there, he was actually DOING something.

So what was he doing? He was BEARING sin. He was dealing with it, he was absorbing it, he was destroying it, and he was suffering from it, and he was LOVING it away. So yes he was bearing our sin in his body, and he did become sin for us, although of course the metaphorical thing hangs heavily over this one.: Yet it is still literal, he DID in some way, or to some degree, literally become sin “for us”.

There is some thought that yes, he hung on the cross and yes, it would be painful, but no, there was nothing beyond this, because it was only a matter of God FORGIVING us that was the core issue to this. They do not recognise the anguish and suffering in the garden BEFORE the actual cross event, nor do they recognise the same suffering on the cross itself, And certainly the words”My God,my God, why have you forsaken me?” don’t seem to have a lot of impact on them.

For some reason,some do not recognise the COST of the cross, and in fact shrink from the very words of cost, or price. Yet these are legitimate words and explanations of what was involved in the “atonement”.

It is not recognised that the cross WAS his forgiveness towards us, and that it actually achieved a shift in our status and standing before God, which only requires our acceptance of it to become “actuated”. The cross was a contract, a “covenant”, an agreement, and a “will”. There have to be two parties to forgiveness, the forgiver and the forgiven. If there is no acceptance of the forgiveness, IE of the cross, then the state of the would be “forgiven” remains unchanged, accept of course to the list of his “sins” he now could add that of the refusal to accept the offering of the son of God as sacrifice for his sins. That the death of God’s son meant nothing to him. And so rather than accept forgiveness, he makes a judgement call that then BECOMES his judgement.

The “transaction” on the cross meant that our inevitable death was now no longer inevitable. Our death, which was the result of sin, was taken on our behalf by Jesus. How could this be? And what does God’s “wrath” have to do with it? Some religions object to the concept of one man paying for the sins of another. (but he was more than just a man).

There is the issue of the blood, upon which great emphasis is made, and again, this is to do with the “simple” aspects of presenting the cross; but HOW does blood itself do anything or save anybody. He took the WRATH of the Father may be a common concept, but along with “sacrifice”, especially when it is related to animal sacrifices as in the old testament, doesn’t go down too well. And yes, it is the common use of such things, even as the song says, “washed in the blood” that have a lot of emotional impact, and not only so, it conveys graphically the reality of the events of the cross.

Now let’s try and get into an overall explanation, so I hope all you readers are aware that as an explanation, it will not necessarily touch your heart, because we are running foul of the complicated explanation issue once again.

Let’s try and put forward some aspects which hopefully will draw together in some understandable fashion perhaps.

God is a supernatural being, he is love, and he is in the business of increasing love and its dominion, ie he seeks his own expansion. A God of love needs something to love, even someones to love. This God cannot be touched by humans, lest they die. He cannot be seen, or even approached, because “He dwells in unapproachable light”. This light though, is not all there is. The Holy Spirit is symbolised by fire. “Our God is a consuming fire”. The chaff is to be burnt after the wheat is gathered. Whatever or whoever God is, he is extremely powerful beyond understanding.

Now when we put these elements together, we discover that the natural world and God, are opposites, are opposed in nature and composition. We become aware that God’s love is actually his very nature and his Spirit in one. And we become aware that the two (his and ours) are mutually exclusive. Peter says that “the earth and the works thereon will be destroyed” [burnt up](by fire).

We discover that when God comes upon this creation, it will be consumed by his nature, and only that which is compatible with his nature will survive, being caught up with his nature and becoming part of it, of him. The rest will be totally consumed, burnt up. Christians are those who made the shift from the natural to the supernatural when they believed. They are those who, in the grace period of time that this age is, have subjected themselves willingly to the Spirit of God, and have had, both initially and ongoing, sin burnt out of them.

God said. “My Spirit will not always strive with man…”. Because of “the fall”, that event where Adam and Eve sinned, mankind has ever since been in hiding of God, in fear of judgement, just as Adam and Eve hid from God after they sinned.

So mankind cannot face up to God, for fear of facing his judgement, so they pretend he doesn’t exist, only subconsciously they know that he does. Man registers within himself the sense of justice and right and wrong in his conscience, to the extent that he can feel “God’s Wrath” upon him. But “God’s wrath”, is actually his love, and this is how his love is perceived by guilty man, as wrath.

Man cannot face God’s love, because of his sin, he expects retribution for his sin, punishment. So he cannot accept that God wants only what is good for man. His expectation of that punishment leaves him in fear (unless his conscience is dead).

The point of all this is that it is God’s love that will destroy that which is not of love, that is of sin. Love cannot allow anything that is less than love, to survive, else love is always compromised by that which is not love.

So the action of love on sin is seen and sensed as wrath. When Christ “became sin for us”, the bond between God and son was temporarily broken, so that the righteousness of the sinless Christ could be put to the test to prove the validity, and the justification, of love insofar as the purpose of the creation and the justice of allowing it to exist at all.

Internally, Christ confronted sin not his own, but that which emerged from the body of flesh that was like our own body “in every way”, “yet without sin”. Paul in Romans 7 declared that “it is not me, but sin that dwells in me”. And as Jesus’ body was racked in the turmoil and the darkness that sin is, as it produced within him every sin scenario, he confronted its unrighteousness and destroyed it with his own righteousness. And the stress of this confrontation was immense. So much so that he cried out, “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?”. There are some that dispute these words, but there are some who would dispute anything. Hitler disputed the right of the Jews to live. Pure evil.

And so, the confrontation within him between that which was good and that which was bad, where the right of life and love to exist at all was in dispute by the same element that disputed God’s integrity in the garden, and which amounted to dispute over whether the creation was justifiable in the light of the evil it produced, amounted to “God’s Wrath”.

Sin was being confronted by, and destroyed by, love. And this act is described by man as wrath.

Christ bore within his body the effective sin of mankind, having taken responsibility for it. The judgement on sin was absorbed by him, distressing though it was. God has allowed the son of his love, to love away the sin of the world. In this the Father shared, because love suffers. That is the nature of love. This love in action destroyed the sin and declared that because he is love, he has removed it from us at great cost to himself, and to his son. [the wrath took it away] Sin was judged IN Christ.

They have done this so we will not die. So that we will live. But though our eternal parent has suffered for us in removing our “iniquity”, “As far as the East is from the West”, it remains that we should recognise this and gratefully acknowledge him as Father, and his son as Son. That we recognise the necessity for sin to be judged, and accepting that it has been judged in him so that we are free of it, that we take steps to remain free of it, by believing and coming home to him.

If we do not, then that sin effectively remains within us, we have refused the judgement of sin in Christ, we will now have to accept its judgement in us, as we have refused to let go of it. Therefore, we will receive the wrath upon ourselves when he comes in flaming fire “with the angels”.

So the sin has been dealt with by his love, and we must accept his love, or at least his action of love relative to our position, so that we are accepting of his forgiveness. The action of the cross meant that “one died for all, therefore all died”. This means the death we deserve has been “accounted” for, it is no longer on God’s “books”, or any other books or ledgers. But unless we rise to his realisation and reality of life, by our belief, faith, and trust in him, that sin can remain in us.

The thing is, that he HAS dealt with sin once for all, “The just for the unjust” to bring us to God. And if we choose again, like Adam chose, to disbelieve his word, then the removal of sin will not help us, because we will remain dead without him.

2015 Random after thoughts. It’s not our sin that kills us, it’s our death that kills us. In R7 Paul is under the wrath of God. He is under the wrath of the law, for, “law brings wrath”. The opposition between law and flesh compared with the opposition of the Spirit and the flesh? “For the Spirit and flesh are opposed, so you cannot do what you want? (Galatians).

Cross afterthoughts…What if it is ALL finished? What if sin is no more and we are left “floating” as free agents with a free will, as free entities? Then it becomes only the need to absorb his life in order to be complete. Reverse engineering – what would be the best outcome for both God and man? someone said “nothing will satisfy the conscience of God that does not first satisfy the conscience of man” or was it the other way around? The cross and the wrath of the law. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil becomes the tree of life? Unlike law, you cannot have “The wrath of the Spirit”. But you can grieve the Spirit. every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. saying what God says. The greatest gift of the Spirit, is the Spirit. “equality” with God (participant in the divine nature). It is finished. It is ALL finished? We are again in the garden with God. There is no sin, we are innocent, we choose again!

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CAN LOVE STAND ALONE? [1280a]

Once the position of love, the understanding and the experience of love has been established, what would happen if all external influence was removed?

If all was fiction so that God was no longer seen as even being real or true, is the nature of love itself enough to enable the person to ‘stand’, to continue in love, of themselves?

“Without me you can do nothing” said Jesus. But, once “Jesus is inside you”, what does that mean?

It was the love inside Jesus that enabled and empowered Him to overcome even when all seemed dark, and God His Father could not be found anywhere. He had grown and matured to the point that He was strong enough BY HIMSELF AND ON HIS OWN, being love in action, being a product of the Spirit of His Father, to do the task He had come to do, to destroy ‘sin in the flesh’.

So once we have God in us also, as love, as delivered by the Spirit who reproduces Himself in us, then presumably we have His nature of love which cannot be altered or changed or indeed, overcome. “He cannot sin, because he has been born of God” said John.

In other words, once love is come to be known for what (who) it is, it is an unstoppable entity of its own, and can never be rejected or discarded, even though it may become enshrouded in clouds of darkness, as Jesus was, even unto death.

The reality probably being, that love is never isolated nor insulated from God Himself who is the very presence of love. His Spirit pervades all, especially ‘those who are His’. So love IS NEVER NOW ISOLATED FROM GOD, it was Jesus’ humanity while it was still potent, that separated Him from His Father, but that humanity has now been overcome, that we might know love by it. No longer living “in” our humanity either, we now live in and by the Spirit Him (of love).

[God is Love][Love is of God][Christ in you, the hope of glory][If Christ is not raised, then all those who ‘sleep’ have perished][(also Christ has to be ‘raised’ ‘within us’)][love is eternal][God is love].

CAN LOVE STAND ALONE? [1280]

Once the position of love, the understanding and the experience of love has been established, what would happen if all external influence was removed?

If all was fiction so that God was no longer seen as even being real or true, is the nature of love itself enough to enable the person to ‘stand’, to continue in love, of themselves?

“Without me you can do nothing” said Jesus. But, once “Jesus is inside you”, what does that mean?

It was the love inside Jesus that enabled and empowered Him to overcome even when all seemed dark, and God His Father could not be found anywhere. He had grown and matured to the point that He was strong enough BY HIMSELF AND ON HIS OWN, being love in action, being a product of the Spirit of His Father, to do the task He had come to do, to destroy ‘sin in the flesh’.

So once we have God in us also, as love, as delivered by the Spirit who reproduces Himself in us, then presumably we have His nature of love which cannot be altered or changed or indeed, overcome. “He cannot sin, because he has been born of God” said John.

In other words, once love is come to be known for what (who) it is, it is an unstoppable entity of its own, and can never be rejected or discarded, even though it may become enshrouded in clouds of darkness, as Jesus was, even unto death.

The reality probably being, that love is never isolated nor insulated from God Himself who is the very presence of love. His Spirit pervades all, especially ‘those who are His’. So love IS NEVER NOW ISOLATED FROM GOD, it was Jesus’ humanity while it was still potent, that separated Him from His Father, but that humanity has now been overcome, that we might know love by it. No longer living “in” our humanity either, we now live in and by the Spirit Him (of love).

[God is Love][Love is of God][Christ in you, the hope of glory][If Christ is not raised, then all those who ‘sleep’ have perished][(also Christ has to be ‘raised’ ‘within us’)][love is eternal][God is love].

MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAVE YOU ABANDONED ME [675d]

My interest here revolves around Paul and Jesus from the point of view of both of them not understanding what was going on, what was happening to them. Paul plainly states so in Romans 7-15 when he says “For that which I do, I don’t understand…”. He is talking about the conflict that has arisen between his law enlightened mind and his ‘mind of the body’ (flesh). In that what he purposes to do, does not actually happen, he is not in control of his own actions as they arise from the ‘will of his flesh’, in contradiction of his ‘own’ will, his rational mind.    [really his heart]

There is a whole other mess of internal contradiction going on, which prohibits the outright performing of the righteousness as prescribed by law. This mess is the product of internal corruption, the conflict between natural (earthly) desire and heavenly desire.

Jesus was also in conflict. His was of his Spirit derived righteousness being in conflict with these very forces that Paul was encountering. From his initial encounter in the garden, to his definitive cry from the cross of “My God, My God…”.  “Why have you forsaken me?” this is revealed on two counts, the first being that he is calling his previous Father ‘God’, and the second that he is asking the question “WHY…”

Jesus was not understanding his position at the time, because of the turmoil of the conflict in which he was involved with the indwelling sin nature of his flesh. During his time on earth he had distanced himself from this indwelling flesh/sin nature, he had identified it as foreign to his nature, his Godly nature, but now he was in battle with this internal contradiction of himself and he was exposed to the very condition that man brings to the table, which is separation from God.

His “Father” had distanced into the background, as the “other” father came to the forefront, the father of lies, whose “works” were now in evidence before him. The father whom he himself had earlier contexted in his address to the Pharisees with “You are of your father the devil…” (and the works of your father you do). Jesus was confronting this corrupted “father” and destroying his right to lay claim to our lives. It was from within this inner darkness of conflict that he was experiencing our humanity and also experiencing our separation from our heavenly Father because of this father of lies.

Under the condition of experiencing this separation, he felt what we feel, he perceived God as judge and executioner, [the law of sin and death was at work] and felt abandoned to his fate. He was on his own. But then, suddenly, the battle was over and the war had been won. “It is finished”. Understanding was once more restored to him and he relinquished his hold on this earthly life. The law of sin and death had been vanquished by his righteousness. Later, love mercy and forgiveness were to introduce us also to this righteousness which had now been revealed to be the true nature of all things pertaining to us and our wellbeing, and which was a free gift because of his grace.

Paul also, once having been involved with the unwinnable conflict which this natural life presents, was to gain victory over his human nature as he submitted to the righteousness of God, by faith in whom he* [God] really was, as revealed through his son. Romans 7 shows this unwinnable conflict without Jesus, and Galatians shows the winnable (won by faith) one with him. Initially there was separation and non-understanding, then there was reconciliation and integration as understanding was gained.

[ In amongst this was also polarisation and depolarisation, as it occurred in both Jesus and Paul.]*[And Paul as a son of God].[He will appear suddenly].

SIN SEPARATED US FROM GOD, NOW GOD HAS SEPARATED US FROM SIN. [1146a]

When our conscience was defiled as a result of our exploration of our natural human nature, the activity of our mind body and spirit was in isolation from the mind and Spirit of God.

God acted in Jesus to separate us from the consequences of our sinful activity, by Him taking the responsibility and the consequences of being one of human nature. Because He loves us, IE both father and son, that love was “grieved” by our behaviour, it suffered as a result of it. It also perfected Jesus body in the process. That grieving is considered by God to be sufficient to enable Him to forgive and forget the natural outcome of us being of sinful flesh. His love does this.

It is now lawful to consider yourself as forgiven and redeemed, and faith in His sacrifice, his love for us, the very fact of His body being made available for the suffering of sin to be able to take place in Him; enables restoration of your sinful condition by acceptance of His declaration that sin has been removed from our account with Him, forever. This faith enables us to gain His Spirit of life, of Jesus, by which we can live up to the trust He places in us to leave our lives of sin and instead to live to that which His Spirit now guides us into.

By faith the very presence of Him with us and inside us, means we will be guided into all aspects of real life, instead of the pseudo “life” we previously led.

Separation from sin is as permanent as we allow it to be. Sin and death no longer have power over us to hold us in their power, because He has permanently dealt with them on the cross. The death that they caused in us has now been refuted and cancelled out by His loving forgiveness of us, which loving forgiveness has always been available to us to freely receive, to restore us and rebuild us into the new model He has designed. Faith in Jesus will cross us over from death to life, if we allow it to be so, even as He has provided for it to be so.

Because of Him, all creation is declared to be dead in Him because of sin, but alive in Him because of sin dealt with, forever. Sin’s power to hold us in slavery has been destroyed, there now exists the freedom to enter into the life he has provided through Jesus His Son. If we refuse to enter into life we will be left in our death. If we refuse to acknowledge this separation from our sin, that He has provided by the living Spirit of Jesus overpowering in his own flesh all aspects of sin and darkness; if we refuse the victory that was won by him at such great cost but made free to us, then we will not be able to participate in that victory, we will not be able to “participate in the divine nature.”

The full process of becoming a new creature in Christ is a complete gift by simply believing it is available, and taking advantage of it. God keeps no record of wrongs, we do that to ourselves by the life we lead making us into either His image or staying in our own.

SIN SEPARATED US FROM GOD, NOW GOD HAS SEPARATED US FROM SIN. [1146]

When our conscience was defiled as a result of our exploration of our natural human nature, the activity of our mind body and spirit was in isolation from the mind and Spirit of God.

God acted in Jesus to separate us from the consequences of our sinful activity, by Him taking the responsibility and the consequences of being one of human nature. Because He loves us, IE both father and son, that love was “grieved” by our behaviour, it suffered as a result of it. It also perfected Jesus body in the process. That grieving is considered by God to be sufficient to enable Him to forgive and forget the natural outcome of us being of sinful flesh. His love does this.

It is now lawful to consider yourself as forgiven and redeemed, and faith in His sacrifice, his love for us, the very fact of His body being made available for the suffering of sin to be able to take place in Him; enables restoration of your sinful condition by acceptance of His declaration that sin has been removed from our account with Him, forever. This faith enables us to gain His Spirit of life, of Jesus, by which we can live up to the trust He places in us to leave our lives of sin and instead to live to that which His Spirit now guides us into.

By faith the very presence of Him with us and inside us, means we will be guided into all aspects of real life, instead of the pseudo “life” we previously led.

Separation from sin is as permanent as we allow it to be*. Sin and death no longer have power over us to hold us in their power, because He has permanently dealt with them on the cross. The death that they caused in us has now been refuted and cancelled out by His loving forgiveness of us, which loving forgiveness has always been available to us to freely receive, to restore us and rebuild us into the new model He has designed. Faith in Jesus will cross us over from death to life, if we allow it to be so, even as He has provided for it to be so.

Because of Him, all creation is declared to be dead in Him because of sin, but alive in Him because of sin dealt with, forever. Sin’s power to hold us in slavery has been destroyed, there now exists the freedom to enter into the life he has provided through Jesus His Son. If we refuse to enter into life we will be left in our death. If we refuse to acknowledge this separation from our sin, that He has provided by the living Spirit of Jesus overpowering in his own flesh all aspects of sin and darkness; if we refuse the victory that was won by him at such great cost but made free to us, then we will not be able to participate in that victory, we will not be able to “participate in the divine nature.”

The full process of becoming a new creature in Christ is a complete gift by simply believing it is available, and taking advantage of it. God keeps no record of wrongs, we do that to ourselves by the life we lead making us into either His image or staying in our own.

*This is not quite right. It is as permanent as He has made it, and that’s COMPLETELY permanent, because what He did in His body was to bring  sin to death. When we believe this, we are exercising faith in Him, that law sin and death have been taken away for us.

ONE LAW TO REPLACE ALL LAWS [1095a]

When all the inferior laws of man are finished, there remains just one which dominates everything, and that is the law of LOVE.

Love is a singular entity which overcomes and restores all that is good and right to its full potential. Love creates and builds and permeates all that exists in a way that prepares all things for full exposure to its final dynamic nature in an unstoppable way.

Love comes gently but firmly, healing, helping, soothing. Love rescues and builds up. Love does all the good things. It is one law because it is one SPIRIT from one entity, that of the GOD whose very nature is love itself, Himself.

Love is the opposite of all that is destructive and bad and hurtful. Love is pro life and defies death. Love conquers all. Love never fails, never ends. Love is eternal.

[The perfect law]