THE END RESULT OF GUILe IS GUILt [1275a]

Our guilt and self condemnation is a result of guile which caused deviation from truth. Guile is the mindset of the serpent ‘of old’, who ‘from the beginning’ in the garden of Eden deceived our predecessors Adam and Eve.

The serpent was lifted up in wilderness, the wilderness of our natural being, that from the uncultured wilderness of our lives we might see form and purpose and true reason by means of the antipathy of it all, that from the unstructured nature and futility of thought, action and purpose, we might see that the reversal of the condition of this primitive nature, reveals the source of both sin and love.

As the serpent was lifted up in the wilderness, so too was the son of man lifted up on the cross, that all who look may live.

[Can you believe there are people who are so deceived that they insist on arguing about whether or not the cross had a cross beam? This is similar to those who insist on the ‘magic’ or ‘specialness’ of Jesus blood as explaining the atonement].[Empathy].

THE END RESULT OF GUILe IS GUILt [1275]

Our guilt and self condemnation is a result of guile which caused deviation from truth. Guile is the mindset of the serpent ‘of old’, who ‘from the beginning’ in the garden of Eden deceived our predecessors Adam and Eve.

The serpent was lifted up in wilderness, the wilderness of our natural being, that from the uncultured wilderness of our lives we might see form and purpose and true reason by means of the antipathy of it all, that from the unstructured nature and futility of thought, action and purpose, we might see that the reversal of the condition of this primitive nature, reveals the source of both sin and love.

As the serpent was lifted up in the wilderness, so too was the son of man lifted up on the cross, that all who look may live.

[Can you believe there are people who are so deceived that they insist on arguing about whether or not the cross had a cross beam? This is similar to those who insist on the ‘magic’ or ‘specialness’ of Jesus blood as explaining the atonement].[Empathy].

THE INSTRUMENT OF SALVATION [646a]

Exploratory theology.

This instrument is obviously the cross. This instrument of torture was a cruel device used by the Romans to dissuade all those who disrupted Roman society, to think again. Those who did not, ended up on this cruel device of death.

“And I, when I am lifted up, will draw all men to me”. The Jews were familiar with the story of the serpents in the desert wilderness, how a serpent was lifted up on a pole and all who looked, lived.

Jesus on the cross was a demonstration of how far the love of God extends to us in order to draw us back to himself. Jesus was “put forward as a sacrifice through faith in his blood”. The acknowledgement of his death for us was accompanied by the baptism (into his death) for the forgiveness of sin [with a view to the forgiveness of sin?].

The only reason Jesus died was for people like us, to demonstrate his overwhelming love as it acts to destroy sin in us, for us, on our behalf. And he died because men like us killed him. Taken at face value as a sacrifice for sin means that what was necessary to accomplish our redemption has in fact been “FINISHED”. It is a reality that only has to be believed on to make it effective for us, in us.

Salvation occurs because men see the love in what Jesus did for us. How he went through the process of redemption at a personal level, accomplishing what we could not, and doing it for us so that “he might taste death for everyone”. Having “tasted” this death which is the normal result of a life of sin, the natural result of being flesh and blood [flesh], he declares that what was necessary to deal with our sin, to REMOVE it, has been done. We are to simply BELIEVE it, HIM. Yes it is that simple, and is the means by which he has designated that we return to Him. It is the ONLY WAY that our consciences can be cleared of our heart felt debt to him in the debt of sin owed, and then in the debt of gratitude owed for having removed the problem of our indwelling sin and death.

Note that this means that we DO RETURN to him  [like the prodigal son]. If his death and resurrection does NOT return us to him, then we are no better off, in fact we are worse, because we continue in the knowledge that we have refused the gift of the death and life of the son of god, spurning it as nothing. Jesus became the first born not only of God, but of the whole creation, and we are to join with him in his purpose and in his very nature, which comes by belief and commitment to Him, predominately in the action of believing the truth that God is love and only love, and holds grudges against nobody.

The offering of his son for us was his way of ensuring we became aware of  what lengths he was prepared to go to reconcile us to himself. [Or more correctly, of the nature of love and how and why it works.]

The form of the offering was that of a sacrifice for sin, in the manner of the Old covenant sacrifice system. It says he was PUT FORWARD AS a sacrifice for sin , not that he WAS an “actual” sacrifice, because no sacrifice is necessary or wanted by God or required by him in order to “remove our sin”, because he FORGIVES IT. Jesus, by dying on the cross,  could no more effect the removal of our sin than we ourselves could. Furthermore, it says that he “overlooked” former sins. [As far as he is concerned they are removed, it is then up to us as to whether or not we will allow them to be removed].

The way sins are removed is by us letting go of them.  [As we come to Him].

We do this as we accept that God and his son have suffered the result of sin in the full meaning of it all. Yes he suffered, yes he was raised on a pole like the serpent of old. HE BECAME SIN FOR US and he has borne the iniquity of us all. The chastisement we deserved FELL ON HIM. Personally Jesus overcame the sin and death within him that were there because they are present in all flesh, including his flesh, but together they (He and his Father) bore the consequences of a creation gone wrong [but by design].

By becoming the first born “of many sons” Jesus is able to return to us as Spirit and to help us in our daily struggles. The Spirit of truth, of life, was returned to us at Pentecost as a witness to the world that Christ was alive.

“By faith in his BLOOD” This reinforces the sacrificial aspect, and what it does is to emphasise and insist that the death we “owed” because of “the law of sin and death”, has been paid IN FULL. The blood is spilled, it can not return, it [the life] is indeed over, finished, AND SO THEN IS OUR DEBT TO DEATH. The death he died he died for us, it was HIS death, but it was also OURS, by God’s express design application and purpose..  “Those who live in darkness have now seen a great light“. Providing we assign this death to the permanence  it deserves, we can then live in the life that he freely gives; not as something that comes into us to overlay the existing life of sin, but as something that utterly wipes out the guilt consciousness of it all, and instead brings to life, springs to life, inside us as a new Spirit, HIS Spirit, come to live in us.

In any case, it would surely be allowable for God to declare that the death of his only begotten son was enough to cover any/many sins. Who are we to argue with Him? It is LOVE that destroys sin, and HIS love that destroys OUR sin in us. LET HIM DO SO, even as he has already done so on the cross in the body of Jesus his son, so we might freely join in his victory WITH HIM. We and our sin are dead in Him, so that we may become alive in and with him also.

[Overall, God has declared that sin and death are finished with, their power has been removed, the matter is over, it is a “fait accompli” for all who will believe in Him and his redemptive love as shown in Jesus][“He has abolished death”][“He has abolished the law” (from which sin drew its power to condemn)][Mercy triumphs over judgement][As soon as love lives in us, we are at one with His victory of love].

[The definitive and once for all action by God in removing our sin through Jesus, can be seen by his words “As far as the East is from the West, so far HAVE I (ALREADY) REMOVED YOUR SIN FROM YOU”]. (The suffering for all sin has already happened in him).

BELIEVE. Only disbelief can hold you in the lie that death is, and the death that the lie is. God has provided a lamb, my son.

  [The lamb/s slain from the foundation of the world]

THE INSTRUMENT OF SALVATION [646]

Exploratory theology.

This instrument is obviously the cross. This instrument of torture was a cruel device used by the Romans to dissuade all those who disrupted Roman society, to think again. Those who did not, ended up on this cruel device of death.

“And I, when I am lifted up, will draw all men to me”. The Jews were familiar with the story of the serpents in the desert wilderness, how a serpent was lifted up on a pole and all who looked, lived.

Jesus on the cross was a demonstration of how far the love of God extends to us in order to draw us back to himself. Jesus was “put forward as a sacrifice through faith in his blood”. The acknowledgement of his death for us was accompanied by the baptism (into his death) for the forgiveness of sin [with a view to the forgiveness of sin?].

The only reason Jesus died was for people like us, to demonstrate his overwhelming love as it acts to destroy sin in us, for us, on our behalf. And he died because men like us killed him. Taken at face value as a sacrifice for sin means that what was necessary to accomplish our redemption has in fact been “FINISHED”. It is a reality that only has to be believed on to make it effective for us, in us.

Salvation occurs because men see the love in what Jesus did for us. How he went through the process of redemption at a personal level, accomplishing what we could not, and doing it for us so that “he might taste death for everyone”. Having “tasted” this death which is the normal result of a life of sin, the natural result of being flesh and blood [flesh], he declares that what was necessary to deal with our sin, to REMOVE it, has been done. We are to simply BELIEVE it, HIM. Yes it is that simple, and is the means by which he has designated that we return to Him. It is the ONLY WAY that our consciences can be cleared of our heart felt debt to him in the debt of sin owed, and then in the debt of gratitude owed for having removed the problem of our indwelling sin and death.

Note that this means that we DO RETURN to him  [like the prodigal son]. If his death and resurrection does NOT return us to him, then we are no better off, in fact we are worse, because we continue in the knowledge that we have refused the gift of the death and life of the son of god, spurning it as nothing. Jesus became the first born not only of God, but of the whole creation, and we are to join with him in his purpose and in his very nature, which comes by belief and commitment to Him, predominately in the action of believing the truth that God is love and only love, and holds grudges against nobody.

The offering of his son for us was his way of ensuring we became aware of  what lengths he was prepared to go to reconcile us to himself. [Or more correctly, of the nature of love and how and why it works.]

The form of the offering was that of a sacrifice for sin, in the manner of the Old covenant sacrifice system. It says he was PUT FORWARD AS a sacrifice for sin , not that he WAS an “actual” sacrifice, because no sacrifice is necessary or wanted by God or required by him in order to “remove our sin”, because he FORGIVES IT. Jesus, by dying on the cross,  could no more effect the removal of our sin than we ourselves could. Furthermore, it says that he “overlooked” former sins. [As far as he is concerned they are removed, it is then up to us as to whether or not we will allow them to be removed].

The way sins are removed is by us letting go of them.  [As we come to Him].

We do this as we accept that God and his son have suffered the result of sin in the full meaning of it all. Yes he suffered, yes he was raised on a pole like the serpent of old. HE BECAME SIN FOR US and he has borne the iniquity of us all. The chastisement we deserved FELL ON HIM. Personally Jesus overcame the sin and death within him that were there because they are present in all flesh, including his flesh, but together they (He and his Father) bore the consequences of a creation gone wrong [but by design].

By becoming the first born “of many sons” Jesus is able to return to us as Spirit and to help us in our daily struggles. The Spirit of truth, of life, was returned to us at Pentecost as a witness to the world that Christ was alive.

“By faith in his BLOOD” This reinforces the sacrificial aspect, and what it does is to emphasise and insist that the death we “owed” because of “the law of sin and death”, has been paid IN FULL. The blood is spilled, it can not return, it [the life] is indeed over, finished, AND SO THEN IS OUR DEBT TO DEATH. The death he died he died for us, it was HIS death, but it was also OURS, by God’s express design application and purpose..  “Those who live in darkness have now seen a great light“. Providing we assign this death to the permanence  it deserves, we can then live in the life that he freely gives; not as something that comes into us to overlay the existing life of sin, but as something that utterly wipes out the guilt consciousness of it all, and instead brings to life, springs to life, inside us as a new Spirit, HIS Spirit, come to live in us.

In any case, it would surely be allowable for God to declare that the death of his only begotten son was enough to cover any/many sins. Who are we to argue with Him? It is LOVE that destroys sin, and HIS love that destroys OUR sin in us. LET HIM DO SO, even as he has already done so on the cross in the body of Jesus his son, so we might freely join in his victory WITH HIM. We and our sin are dead in Him, so that we may become alive in and with him also.

[Overall, God has declared that sin and death are finished with, their power has been removed, the matter is over, it is a “fait accompli” for all who will believe in Him and his redemptive love as shown in Jesus][“He has abolished death”][“He has abolished the law” (from which sin drew its power to condemn)][Mercy triumphs over judgement][As soon as love lives in us, we are at one with His victory of love].

[The definitive and once for all action by God in removing our sin through Jesus, can be seen by his words “As far as the East is from the West, so far HAVE I (ALREADY) REMOVED YOUR SIN FROM YOU”]. (The suffering for all sin has already happened in him).

BELIEVE. Only disbelief can hold you in the lie that death is, and the death that the lie is. God has provided a lamb, my son.

  [The lamb/s slain from the foundation of the world]

TELL ME A STORY [43a]

First the Diabolos argues that man will not die. (Adam) then he forever after harrasses him that he will die. (us).

It is the DRAMA of the stories that gives them their power, and the seriousness of the issues concerned. Mostly always about death.

Now what logical analysis can we make of the snake being lifted up in the wilderness? It was nothing of itself, just one of the snake plague that had been biting the Jews in the wilderness and causing death.

It might have signified some minor triumph over the nasty critters, but it was presented as much more than that. “All who look will live”. The serpent of death, was itself dead, There was supernatural power present to heal those afflicted. It was a depiction of faith, a depiction of mind over matter perhaps, but could not possibly bring healing of itself, without supernatural intervention.

HOWEVER. Not to say that this is what happened in the above instance, but the power of thought can be impressively powerful. We know that there is such a thing as hypnotism, which is the power of suggestion over mental and allied physical processes. And something like this may be involved when we consider the Australian aboriginals, who have had “witchdoctors” called “Kadicha men”, or similar.

They have a ritual involving what is known as “the pointing of the bone”, and if people find out, or are led to believe, that they have been the subject of such a ceremony, they actually die. Such is the power of the mind when it is bound up in superstitious fear, that they refuse to eat and end up dying.

So there may be a lot of truth in the power that our beliefs have over us. IE that which we believe may be either that which we already are, or what we become. That our very being is a product of our thought processes insofar as our behaviour and character is concerned, and which may even reach into our ultimate destiny.

When it comes to “faith in the blood”, it may be that it is the DRAMA of it that is a major factor. I have already stuck my neck out in rationalising that the blood itself is nothing, that it represents a death. However, the greater story may lie not so much in a death, but in the dramatic way that blood represents that death, in that it was horrific, graphic and violent.

There is a tremendous spiritual impact that accompanies the story of the gospel, the story of the cross. The DRAMA of the serpent lifted up on a pole, the DRAMA of a man being the subject of an apparent blood sacrifice, which sacrificial practices the Jews were fully familiar with. Jesus himself went amongst those who sold animals for temple sacrifices. The priests sacrificed, with much drama and blood, the animals who were to “bear their sins”.

And now we have this preacher of life and love, sacrificed on a wooden pole, and lifted up as the serpent in the wilderness, as the blood sacrifice, the receiver of OUR sins, and the bearer of the due punishment earned by those sins.

The transfer of guilt, rather than being from them to the sacrifice, as was the intention of such blood sacrifices, would have been of the OPPOSITE effect. The GUILT would have been transferred from Jesus, TO THE ONLOOKERS. Even the Roman centurion was affected in this way. Certainly the thief on the cross was.

The blood depicts the violent drama of the event, the darkness and earthquake and the words involved, played out in this dramatic and horrific scene which was presented to those who looked on, and subsequently has forever been presented to the “mind’s eye” of those who have either read or heard of the gospel regarding the sacrifice of Christ.

The spiritual impact of this is immense. There is no rationale that can convey the message in the way that it has been done. It is almost beyond words in the way that it can reach into the depths of the soul of man. Its depiction is that of all things, of guilt and death and life and hate and love and fear. So extremely powerful. And by this impact, the heart of man is opened to God’s truth. Opened like the tomb of Lazarus, perhaps.

His torture was our torture. He brought the anguish of life and death to the forefront, to the surface, and poured it out of every pore of his being. The depths of his concern for us, if not able to be seen in his life, is certainly seen now in and by his death, and the manner of it.

And yet this horrific scene speaks of love, his love for us, God’s love for us that we rejected somewhere in our life’s experience. And the love we long and yearn for. The love that was killed off somewhere in our journey in this life, this existence. Being fully acquainted with the result within ourselves, of the rejection of love, of the hurt and pain it has brought, and brings, to ourselves and others, a continuing awareness of the separation from the love of the eternal parent.

So this is why we identify so strongly with him and his cross. Because it is also us and our cross. But we remain pinned to it, to the cross of this body of death, whereas he was released from it, until the metamorphous was complete, and life was evidenced with the final release, for him at least, from death’s processes.

[i have not mentioned that the snake was a bronze replica (if it was) ]

So with this story, even if it still appears  somewhat analytical, I have attempted to redeem myself from a lot of earlier posts, particularly regarding the cross and blood. Whether I have succeeded I’m not yet sure. The good news is that while continuing to bear our cross, we now have the power of his life by which to do so.

TELL ME A STORY [43]

First the Diabolos argues that man will not die. (Adam) then he forever after harrasses him that he will die. (us).

It is the DRAMA of the stories that gives them their power, and the seriousness of the issues concerned. Mostly always about death.

Now what logical analysis can we make of the snake being lifted up in the wilderness? It was nothing of itself, just one of the snake plague that had been biting the Jews in the wilderness and causing death.

It might have signified some minor triumph over the nasty critters, but it was presented as much more than that. “All who look will live”. The serpent of death, was itself dead, There was supernatural power present to heal those afflicted. It was a depiction of faith, a depiction of mind over matter perhaps, but could not possibly bring healing of itself, without supernatural intervention.

HOWEVER. Not to say that this is what happened in the above instance, but the power of thought can be impressively powerful. We know that there is such a thing as hypnotism, which is the power of suggestion over mental and allied physical processes. And something like this may be involved when we consider the Australian aboriginals, who have had “witchdoctors” called “Kadicha men”, or similar.

They have a ritual involving what is known as “the pointing of the bone”, and if people find out, or are led to believe, that they have been the subject of such a ceremony, they actually die. Such is the power of the mind when it is bound up in superstitious fear, that they refuse to eat and end up dying.

So there may be a lot of truth in the power that our beliefs have over us. IE that which we believe may be either that which we already are, or what we become. That our very being is a product of our thought processes insofar as our behaviour and character is concerned, and which may even reach into our ultimate destiny.

When it comes to “faith in the blood”, it may be that it is the DRAMA of it that is a major factor. I have already stuck my neck out in rationalising that the blood itself is nothing, that it represents a death. However, the greater story may lie not so much in a death, but in the dramatic way that blood represents that death, in that it was horrific, graphic and violent.

There is a tremendous spiritual impact that accompanies the story of the gospel, the story of the cross. The DRAMA of the serpent lifted up on a pole, the DRAMA of a man being the subject of an apparent blood sacrifice, which sacrificial practices the Jews were fully familiar with. Jesus himself went amongst those who sold animals for temple sacrifices. The priests sacrificed, with much drama and blood, the animals who were to “bear their sins”.

And now we have this preacher of life and love, sacrificed on a wooden pole, and lifted up as the serpent in the wilderness, as the blood sacrifice, the receiver of OUR sins, and the bearer of the due punishment earned by those sins.

The transfer of guilt, rather than being from them to the sacrifice, as was the intention of such blood sacrifices, would have been of the OPPOSITE effect. The GUILT would have been transferred from Jesus, TO THE ONLOOKERS. Even the Roman centurion was affected in this way. Certainly the thief on the cross was.

The blood depicts the violent drama of the event, the darkness and earthquake and the words involved, played out in this dramatic and horrific scene which was presented to those who looked on, and subsequently has forever been presented to the “mind’s eye” of those who have either read or heard of the gospel regarding the sacrifice of Christ.

The spiritual impact of this is immense. There is no rationale that can convey the message in the way that it has been done. It is almost beyond words in the way that it can reach into the depths of the soul of man. Its depiction is that of all things, of guilt and death and life and hate and love and fear. So extremely powerful. And by this impact, the heart of man is opened to God’s truth. Opened like the tomb of Lazarus, perhaps.

His torture was our torture. He brought the anguish of life and death to the forefront, to the surface, and poured it out of every pore of his being. The depths of his concern for us, if not able to be seen in his life, is certainly seen now in and by his death, and the manner of it.

And yet this horrific scene speaks of love, his love for us, God’s love for us that we rejected somewhere in our life’s experience. And the love we long and yearn for. The love that was killed off somewhere in our journey in this life, this existence. Being fully acquainted with the result within ourselves, of the rejection of love, of the hurt and pain it has brought, and brings, to ourselves and others, a continuing awareness of the separation from the love of the eternal parent.

So this is why we identify so strongly with him and his cross. Because it is also us and our cross. But we remain pinned to it, to the cross of this body of death, whereas he was released from it, until the metamorphous was complete, and life was evidenced with the final release, for him at least, from death’s processes.

[i have not mentioned that the snake was a bronze replica (if it was) ]

So with this story, even if it still appears  somewhat analytical, I have attempted to redeem myself from a lot of earlier posts, particularly regarding the cross and blood. Whether I have succeeded I’m not yet sure. The good news is that while continuing to bear our cross, we now have the power of his life by which to do so.