SIN THROUGH THE COMMANDMENT CAUSED ME TO COVET [1776a]

Romans 7:8. Those who wish commandments to continue, seem to be oblivious to the reason why the Law was “abolished”, and this verse clearly demonstrates it. Commandments cause sin because of the weakness of the flesh (Rom.8:3). So Jesus “killed” (restored) the flesh for us, so that we can now “die” to this law ‘of the flesh’ which demands ‘fleshly’ perfection, and obtain His Spirit of life “APART FROM THE LAW”. [and also be restored with Him and through Him].

The law being completed in Him means it is also completed in US as long as we are “in” Him and not in our “old” nature (“that is, in my flesh” Rom.7:18, 7:14) which was worthy of death and which we now transform by living in the Spirit, HIS Spirit.

Christians who are “of” flesh (everyone is “of” flesh) live no longer “in” flesh, but “in” (and of) the Spirit, because the Spirit (of Jesus) now lives “in” them, whereas if they were “under” the law they are not able to live “in” the Spirit because THEY DO NOT POSSESS IT (in true Spirit form by their own admission). Those of law cannot be of Spirit. Most Christians were never under the (Jewish) law. We are “adopted” into Christ, not into the Jewish religion.

Rom.7:9 “And I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive, and I died;..” 7:11. “For sin, taking opportunity through the commandment…killed me. Rom.7:6 “But now we have been RELEASED from the law, having DIED [through the body of Christ] to that BY WHICH WE WERE BOUND [7:14 …sold into BONDAGE to sin…] so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter” [law].

“He has abolished the law”. And more. ALL OF IT. [in His body].

“For the sting of death is sin, and the POWER OF SIN IS THE LAW, [Romans 7] but thanks be to God who gives us the victory through Christ” [Romans 8] . Freedom from law empowers freedom from sin.

[Rom.7:4. “Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, that we might bear fruit for God”.][To be joined to the law is to be under the law][The one who is led by the Spirit is no longer under the law][In Romans 7 Paul was speaking as being dead under the law]

SIN THROUGH THE COMMANDMENT CAUSED ME TO COVET [1776]

Romans 7:8. Those who wish commandments to continue, seem to be oblivious to the reason why the Law was “abolished”, and this verse clearly demonstrates it. Commandments cause sin because of the weakness of the flesh (Rom.8:3). So Jesus “killed” (restored) the flesh for us, so that we can now “die” to this law ‘of the flesh’ which demands ‘fleshly’ perfection, and obtain His Spirit of life “APART FROM THE LAW”. [and also be restored with Him and through Him].

The law being completed in Him means it is also completed in US as long as we are “in” Him and not in our “old” nature (“that is, in my flesh” Rom.7:18, 7:14) which was worthy of death and which we now transform by living in the Spirit, HIS Spirit.

Christians who are “of” flesh (everyone is “of” flesh) live no longer “in” flesh, but “in” (and of) the Spirit, because the Spirit (of Jesus) now lives “in” them, whereas if they were “under” the law they are not able to live “in” the Spirit because THEY DO NOT POSSESS IT (in true Spirit form by their own admission). Those of law cannot be of Spirit. Most Christians were never under the (Jewish) law. We are “adopted” into Christ, not into the Jewish religion.

Rom.7:9 “And I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive, and I died;..” 7:11. “For sin, taking opportunity through the commandment…killed me. Rom.7:6 “But now we have been RELEASED from the law, having DIED [through the body of Christ] to that BY WHICH WE WERE BOUND [7:14 …sold into BONDAGE to sin…] so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter” [law].

“He has abolished the law”. And more. ALL OF IT. [in His body].

“For the sting of death is sin, and the POWER OF SIN IS THE LAW, [Romans 7] but thanks be to God who gives us the victory through Christ” [Romans 8] . Freedom from law empowers freedom from sin.

[Rom.7:4. “Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, that we might bear fruit for God”.][To be joined to the law is to be under the law][The one who is led by the Spirit is no longer under the law][In Romans 7 Paul was speaking as being dead under the law]

A COMPANY OF SINNERS [1638a]

A local minister likes to call the church “A company of sinners”. I don’t believe this is scriptural, especially considering the misconception over Romans chapter 7 where similar views promote the idea that Paul in Romans 7 was speaking as a Christian, that this absolutely negative and defeated experience is that of the Christian, which is completely wrong.

The woman caught in adultery was told by Jesus that she was not condemned, but to “go and sin no more”. The whole biblical stance is wrapped up around the notion of sin, and so there also is the notion of NOT sinning. After all, to have faith in Jesus is to bring a person to the end result where they leave their former lives of sin, to become those with new lives where sin becomes something more remote from their present experience compared to their prior experience.

Now certainly we know that the basis of it all is that “natural man” is said to be DEAD “in sin”, whereas the new man is said to be ALIVE in Christ, in the Spirit. Otherwise what would be the point of pitting the “works of the flesh” against “The fruit of the Spirit”?

Under the old covenant the clarity of it was that if you broke the law, you had “sinned”, and needed to go to the priest every so often to ‘confess the sin’ and to obtain forgiveness by means of sacrificing a dove or a sheep or a bull. These sacrifices were to absolve oneself from this sin and the guilt of it.

Romans 6:12 “Do not let sin reign…” 6:14 “sin shall not be master over you…” 16 You are a slave to either sin or obedience. 18 Having been FREED from sin. 20 WHEN you were slaves to sin. 22 But now having been freed from sin and ENSLAVED to righteousness, the result is sanctification resulting in eternal life.

8:14 “For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God”. 8:13 “…for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

IF THE RIGHTEOUS ARE SCARCELY SAVED, WHERE WILL THE SINNER STAND?

If there is no visible difference between the saint and the sinner, why bother at all? To identify with sinners on the basis of being one yourself is surely a strange way to go about the process of introducing others to the “benefits” of being a Christian. Why then have a list of things which are “sins” at all?

And all of this seems to be to justify this wrong view of Romans 7 that Christians are simply those who continue to be weak in the flesh as depicted by the error of misunderstanding Paul’s apparent behaviour, which though being the result of one being under the law, they claim to be that of one regenerated in Christ.

The benefit of the Christian life is based on the overturning of a legalistic apprehension of the “law”, and an apprehension of the new life based on the fact that the law of the Spirit of life has set you free from the law of sin and death. Having been set free from death (sin), you now freely serve LIFE.

SIN AND DEATH resulted from being under the law, righteousness and life come from being in Christ. To call Christians, to call the church, “a company of sinners”, is to use language that only the enemy might use. It is false and certainly unbiblical, something you should not expect from a Christian minister.

A COMPANY OF SINNERS [1638]

A local minister likes to call the church “A company of sinners”. I don’t believe this is scriptural, especially considering the misconception over Romans chapter 7 where similar views promote the idea that Paul in Romans 7 was speaking as a Christian, that this absolutely negative and defeated experience is that of the Christian, which is completely wrong.

The woman caught in adultery was told by Jesus that she was not condemned, but to “go and sin no more”. The whole biblical stance is wrapped up around the notion of sin, and so there also is the notion of NOT sinning. After all, to have faith in Jesus is to bring a person to the end result where they leave their former lives of sin, to become those with new lives where sin becomes something more remote from their present experience compared to their prior experience.

Now certainly we know that the basis of it all is that “natural man” is said to be DEAD “in sin”, whereas the new man is said to be ALIVE in Christ, in the Spirit. Otherwise what would be the point of pitting the “works of the flesh” against “The fruit of the Spirit”?

Under the old covenant the clarity of it was that if you broke the law, you had “sinned”, and needed to go to the priest every so often to ‘confess the sin’ and to obtain forgiveness by means of sacrificing a dove or a sheep or a bull. These sacrifices were to absolve oneself from this sin and the guilt of it.

Romans 6:12 “Do not let sin reign…” 6:14 “sin shall not be master over you…” 16 You are a slave to either sin or obedience. 18 Having been FREED from sin. 20 WHEN you were slaves to sin. 22 But now having been freed from sin and ENSLAVED to righteousness, the result is sanctification resulting in eternal life.

8:14 “For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God”. 8:13 “…for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

IF THE RIGHTEOUS ARE SCARCELY SAVED, WHERE WILL THE SINNER STAND?

If there is no visible difference between the saint and the sinner, why bother at all? To identify with sinners on the basis of being one yourself is surely a strange way to go about the process of introducing others to the “benefits” of being a Christian. Why then have a list of things which are “sins” at all?

And all of this seems to be to justify this wrong view of Romans 7 that Christians are simply those who continue to be weak in the flesh as depicted by the error of misunderstanding Paul’s apparent behaviour, which though being the result of one being under the law, they claim to be that of one regenerated in Christ.

The benefit of the Christian life is based on the overturning of a legalistic apprehension of the “law”, and an apprehension of the new life based on the fact that the law of the Spirit of life has set you free from the law of sin and death. Having been set free from death (sin), you now freely serve LIFE.

SIN AND DEATH resulted from being under the law, righteousness and life come from being in Christ. To call Christians, to call the church, “a company of sinners”, is to use language that only the enemy might use. It is false and certainly unbiblical, something you should not expect from a Christian minister.

RELIGION BRINGS DEATH [1056c]

Many people might say or express this sentiment in various ways. Paul found this to be the case in his own religion, and once set free from it, never ceased to point out that religion cannot bring life and in fact brings death instead.

The new religion that Paul had discovered gave him a life that was totally unlike his previous captivity to a set of laws. This new religion was not actually a religion, but was instead, an expression of the righteousness of God as embodied in the son of God, Jesus. This new life was testified to by many supernatural events as to its reality and authority, but ultimately settled down to its true form, which was that life must come through faith; that trust and hope must be the active ingredients that enable the production of the true nature of life, that nature being love, the very nature of God the Creator Himself.

Repeatedly, many have sought to raise up religions which are not based on faith, IE on trusting and believing: Instead, they are based on all sorts of laws and commands and demands that God Himself has put aside by resolving all these legal conflicts within His Son’s body on the cross. But they never stop trying to reduce this amazing grace, this amazing life of love to a set of demands which human nature cannot meet. Rather than accepting that they are in the midst of death and accepting this death which God has provided through Jesus FOR US, they persist in trying to establish these legal situations which have been proved time and time again to produce nothing but the works of death.

Life is a gift, and we must recognise this and embrace it completely and wholeheartedly. Definitely connect with a Christian organisation, your local church, but never submit to legalised requirements of any nature at all, because these are the very elements of death that Jesus died to overcome for us and He now brings this victory of His to us as His gift of life to us. Righteousness is freely obtained through belief in His sacrifice. He DECLARES us righteous through what He has done and through who He is. He DECLARES that sin and death are no longer “monkeys on our backs”, and it is His express will and desire that we consider ourselves to be free to take up this position of righteousness that He has revealed through the one who died to make it so. In fact, realistically, He COMMANDS it; but perhaps this is itself too legalistic. He IMPLORES us to respond to His redemption as obtained through the revelation of Jesus who was and is Love’s example and its unveiling.

This is such an amazing thing that it may be little wonder that these legalistic religions cannot understand it; as it is written, ‘I do something YOU WILL NEVER BELIEVE though someone tell it to you’.

IT IS FINISHED [1589d]

These are the words of Jesus from the cross, so what did He mean by them? Going by the mass of theology and diverse opinion amongst his followers, it means “diddly squat”, because they cannot agree on what this means, and many of them seem to think that “it” is not “finished” until they have added their own particular stamp of doctrine upon “it” to which everyone must be in conformity with, and offer obedience to, before it is “allowed” to be “finished”.

Because to have “it” “finished” would mean there would be no more conflict and no “wriggle room” allowed for personal egotistical manipulation of truth into lie, which was the problem from the beginning.

“IT” I believe, in general terms means the redemption of mankind, the finalisation of the original creation by its restoration through the addition of the missing ingredient, the Spirit of the Son of God Himself. It was initially, because His words were spoken before his resurrection, the FINISH of the process of the destruction/conversion/healing of those components [in Himself] of humanity, which had been allowed to manifest themselves through freedom of will and choice having been given to them, which had to be the case so that mankind would be a product of choice rather than of compulsion. Hence the “abolishment” of “The Law” by the manifestation of Jesus as grace and truth. The covenant of our death was replaced with the covenant of His life.

God’s plain intention is for us to then accept this and to enter into reconciliation with Him without further “argument”, the thing being, that as far as HE is concerned it is all “done and dusted”, the whole issue is TRULY FINISHED WITH, leaving nothing for us to do but ACCEPT it.

We can either go through this whole saga about having to put our flesh to death or we can accept that THIS IS THE VERY THING HE DID FOR US ON THE CROSS and it is in believing this that we are ‘saved’. BECAUSE HE HAS ALREADY ‘SAVED’ US.

It is not initially even a matter of our compliance, regardless of anything we think do or say, He has done IT, “IT” is over and done with, “IT” is truly FINISHED. It is only up to us then to BELIEVE HIM or to NOT BELIEVE Him that this is so. And therein lies the problem. We create all manner of excuses, reasons and rationality as to why this cannot be so. Instead of there being a community of peace, there ends up a disheveled collection of dissatisfied and argumentative “believers” who believe in everything except the one thing they are asked to believe, that IT IS FINISHED.

We have already been given all that had to be given us in order to join in with the final creative result of the Son of God’s re-creation in all flesh by means of The Spirit of the Son of God, IN US. To believe is to enter into the NEW CREATION by BECOMING THAT NEW CREATION in Him and He in us. We “enter into the kingdom of God” in this life, in order to be confirmed in it in the next.

And all that has been done has been done in order for us to ADMIT to Him and His sovereignty over us because what has been done is irreversibly perfected in Jesus; all sin and death, transgressions of law, failures to comply with whatever. It has all been rendered meaningless through Jesus having dealt with it all in HIS body, so as to give us the victory in OURS.

Sin and death have been neutralised, rendered impotent and temporary. Nothing of the works of sin and death have any power anymore over those who believe in Him, and God is no longer concerned with them, “As far as East is from West, so far have I removed your sins from you”. As far as He is concerned, you have already died with Christ, [EVERYONE was “made to die with Christ”] and it just requires belief in Him and His resurrection to life for you to join with Him in it, and Him with you.

He has provided eternal life to all who will receive it; He has provided it, we just receive it. BY BELIEVING IT.

[It is finished, but will we allow it to be finished?] TETELESTAI.

https://crossroman.wordpress.com/2021/01/18/joyful-songs-773av/

IT IS FINISHED [1589c]

These are the words of Jesus from the cross, so what did He mean by them? Going by the mass of theology and diverse opinion amongst his followers, it means “diddly squat”, because they cannot agree on what this means, and many of them seem to think that “it” is not “finished” until they have added their own particular stamp of doctrine upon “it” to which everyone must be in conformity with, and offer obedience to, before it is “allowed” to be “finished”.

Because to have “it” “finished” would mean there would be no more conflict and no “wriggle room” allowed for personal egotistical manipulation of truth into lie, which was the problem from the beginning.

“IT” I believe, in general terms means the redemption of mankind, the finalisation of the original creation by its restoration through the addition of the missing ingredient, the Spirit of the Son of God Himself. It was initially, because His words were spoken before his resurrection, the FINISH of the process of the destruction/conversion/healing of those components [in Himself] of humanity, which had been allowed to manifest themselves through freedom of will and choice having been given to them, which had to be the case so that mankind would be a product of choice rather than of compulsion. Hence the “abolishment” of “The Law” by the manifestation of Jesus as grace and truth. The covenant of our death was replaced with the covenant of His life.

God’s plain intention is for us to then accept this and to enter into reconciliation with Him without further “argument”, the thing being, that as far as HE is concerned it is all “done and dusted”, the whole issue is TRULY FINISHED WITH, leaving nothing for us to do but ACCEPT it.

We can either go through this whole saga about having to put our flesh to death or we can accept that THIS IS THE VERY THING HE DID FOR US ON THE CROSS and it is in believing this that we are ‘saved’. BECAUSE HE HAS ALREADY ‘SAVED’ US.

It is not initially even a matter of our compliance, regardless of anything we think do or say, He has done IT, “IT” is over and done with, “IT” is truly FINISHED. It is only up to us then to BELIEVE HIM or to NOT BELIEVE Him that this is so. And therein lies the problem. We create all manner of excuses, reasons and rationality as to why this cannot be so. Instead of there being a community of peace, there ends up a disheveled collection of dissatisfied and argumentative “believers” who believe in everything except the one thing they are asked to believe, that IT IS FINISHED.

We have already been given all that had to be given us in order to join in with the final creative result of the Son of God’s re-creation in all flesh by means of The Spirit of the Son of God, IN US. To believe is to enter into the NEW CREATION by BECOMING THAT NEW CREATION in Him and He in us. We “enter into the kingdom of God” in this life, in order to be confirmed in it in the next.

And all that has been done has been done in order for us to ADMIT to Him and His sovereignty over us because what has been done is irreversibly perfected in Jesus; all sin and death, transgressions of law, failures to comply with whatever. It has all been rendered meaningless through Jesus having dealt with it all in HIS body, so as to give us the victory in OURS.

Sin and death have been neutralised, rendered impotent and temporary. Nothing of the works of sin and death have any power anymore over those who believe in Him, and God is no longer concerned with them, “As far as East is from West, so far have I removed your sins from you”. As far as He is concerned, you have already died with Christ, [EVERYONE was “made to die with Christ”] and it just requires belief in Him and His resurrection to life for you to join with Him in it, and Him with you.

He has provided eternal life to all who will receive it; He has provided it, we just receive it. BY BELIEVING IT.

[It is finished, but will we allow it to be finished?] TETELESTAI.

https://crossroman.wordpress.com/2021/01/18/joyful-songs-773av/

THOSE WHO REJECT THE SON, REJECT THE FATHER ALSO [1600a]

A simple business really. According to Jesus the Son of the living God, those who reject HIM are also rejecting HIS Father. This is Christianity, whose God is the God also of other religions, but who reject Jesus as being God’s Son. So naturally enough there are divisions between them, as they all claim exclusive access to this one God.

The Jesus we believe in as being the only begotten Son of this one God, has made it plain that to reject Him is to reject access to His Father also. Is to deny His revelation of His nature as being always forgiving, loving, and nurturing. As having already supplied the necessary redemption [Jesus on the cross] from all that concerns us as being that which separates us from God and deprives us of His goodness towards us.

The proof of this is His resurrection from the dead and the way all of the scriptures combine to confirm this event as being central to the nature of God and of His Son as being this very revelation.

To reject the Son is to reject the very Spirit of life itself, is to champion the cause of death and of unrighteousness, and is to deny oneself the only opportunity this world provides of futuristic eternal life, which is by receiving the presently offered gift of His Spirit which reveals to us the nature of this new life and then draws us into it by His grace. To reject this, Him, is to reject ones own self.

[1 John 2:23 “Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also”]

THOSE WHO REJECT THE SON, REJECT THE FATHER ALSO [1600]

A simple business really. According to Jesus the Son of the living God, those who reject HIM are also rejecting HIS Father. This is Christianity, whose God is the God also of other religions, but who reject Jesus as being God’s Son. So naturally enough there are divisions between them, as they all claim exclusive access to this one God.

The Jesus we believe in as being the only begotten Son of this one God, has made it plain that to reject Him is to reject access to His Father also. Is to deny His revelation of His nature as being always forgiving, loving, and nurturing. As having already supplied the necessary redemption [Jesus on the cross] from all that concerns us as being that which separates us from God and deprives us of His goodness towards us.

The proof of this is His resurrection from the dead and the way all of the scriptures combine to confirm this event as being central to the nature of God and of His Son as being this very revelation.

To reject the Son is to reject the very Spirit of life itself, is to champion the cause of death and of unrighteousness, and is to deny oneself the only opportunity this world provides of futuristic eternal life, which is by receiving the presently offered gift of His Spirit which reveals to us the nature of this new life and then draws us into it by His grace. To reject this, Him, is to reject ones own self.

[1 John 2:23 “Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also”]

IT IS FINISHED [1589b]

These are the words of Jesus from the cross, so what did He mean by them? Going by the mass of theology and diverse opinion amongst his followers, it means “diddly squat”, because they cannot agree on what this means, and many of them seem to think that “it” is not “finished” until they have added their own particular stamp of doctrine upon “it” to which everyone must be in conformity with, and offer obedience to, before it is “allowed” to be “finished”.

Because to have “it” “finished” would mean there would be no more conflict and no “wriggle room” allowed for personal egotistical manipulation of truth into lie, which was the problem from the beginning.

“IT” I believe, in general terms means the redemption of mankind, the finalisation of the original creation by its restoration through the addition of the missing ingredient, the Spirit of the Son of God Himself. It was initially, because His words were spoken before his resurrection, the FINISH of the process of the destruction/conversion/healing of those components [in Himself] of humanity, which had been allowed to manifest themselves through freedom of will and choice having been given to them, which had to be the case so that mankind would be a product of choice rather than of compulsion. Hence the “abolishment” of “The Law” by the manifestation of Jesus as grace and truth. The covenant of our death was replaced with the covenant of His life.

God’s plain intention is for us to then accept this and to enter into reconciliation with Him without further “argument”, the thing being, that as far as HE is concerned it is all “done and dusted”, the whole issue is TRULY FINISHED WITH, leaving nothing for us to do but ACCEPT it.

We can either go through this whole saga about having to put our flesh to death or we can accept that THIS IS THE VERY THING HE DID FOR US ON THE CROSS and it is in believing this that we are ‘saved’. BECAUSE HE HAS ALREADY ‘SAVED’ US.

It is not initially even a matter of our compliance, regardless of anything we think do or say, He has done IT, “IT” is over and done with, “IT” is truly FINISHED. It is only up to us then to BELIEVE HIM or to NOT BELIEVE Him that this is so. And therein lies the problem. We create all manner of excuses, reasons and rationality as to why this cannot be so. Instead of there being a community of peace, there ends up a disheveled collection of dissatisfied and argumentative “believers” who believe in everything except the one thing they are asked to believe, that IT IS FINISHED.

We have already been given all that had to be given us in order to join in with the final creative result of the Son of God’s re-creation in all flesh by means of The Spirit of the Son of God, IN US. To believe is to enter into the NEW CREATION by BECOMING THAT NEW CREATION in Him and He in us. We “enter into the kingdom of God” in this life, in order to be confirmed in it in the next.

And all that has been done has been done in order for us to ADMIT to Him and His sovereignty over us because what has been done is irreversibly perfected in Jesus; all sin and death, transgressions of law, failures to comply with whatever. It has all been rendered meaningless through Jesus having dealt with it all in HIS body, so as to give us the victory in OURS.

Sin and death have been neutralised, rendered impotent and temporary. Nothing of the works of sin and death have any power anymore over those who believe in Him, and God is no longer concerned with them, “As far as East is from West, so far have I removed your sins from you”. As far as He is concerned, you have already died with Christ, [EVERYONE was “made to die with Christ”] and it just requires belief in Him and His resurrection to life for you to join with Him in it, and Him with you.

He has provided eternal life to all who will receive it; He has provided it, we just receive it. BY BELIEVING IT.

[It is finished, but will we allow it to be finished?] TETELESTAI.

https://crossroman.wordpress.com/2021/01/18/joyful-songs-773av/