THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO DENY YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD [1468b]

God’s whole purpose with mankind is to get us to admit we are His children. So that when we have done that, we will join with the other children of God towards Him in gratitude, and will love one another, and also all those in the world, as Jesus did.

But we find many ways to avoid accepting this. We don’t or won’t believe, we don’t have time to investigate His claims on us, we find His claims too demanding, too costly. We believe that there are many ways to God or that spiritual views are too split to be able to reconcile them to one singular truth (that God is love).

We were brought up in particular religions or denominations which bent us one way or the other, so that we now find the prevailing views on spirituality, Christianity, too confused warped or distorted to give allegiance to any of them; or we cleave to one particular view, belief system or denomination and show contempt towards others.

Through Jesus, God BOUGHT us back to Himself. We now accept or reject His ownership of us, we accept or reject the correction of the Adamic error which He brought into place to free us from its consequences. But we don’t want to be free, because such freedom comes at the cost of our own selfish endeavours to provide “the good life” for ourselves.

We don’t want His kind of good life, because we might have to do that which is absolutely good and right. We might even have to love our enemies, even those who are morally corrupt, and the dirty and unwashed. We may have been one of these ourselves, “and such were some of you”.

And a simple way of avoiding God’s love in Jesus is to claim to have the truth of Him, to claim to be His true child, to have the way of the way, the truth and the life, and then to refuse to acknowledge His other true children, to refuse to fellowship with them, to claim that it is “my way or the highway”.

We are to love, not only “the brethren”, our brothers and sisters in Christ, whoever and wherever they may be and where we find them [and if we refuse to do this we are denying Christ] but to also love those of the world, and even our enemies. EVERYBODY. We are to LOVE without reservation, regardless of the “cost” to ourselves, because the “cost” to Him to enable us to do this, was far greater.

And even ‘judgement’ as to who our brethren may be, has to be suspended. “Do not judge, lest you be judged”. With the measure of judgement you give, so shall you receive. Love encompasses all. We should be so busy loving that we have no sense of judgement about who it is that we are loving. Then it won’t matter whether we consider them as “brethren” or not.

WE HAVE ONLY ONE PURPOSE – TO EXIST TO LOVE.

[For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son that whoever believes in Him will not die but have eternal life][We must be about our Father’s business]

 

THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO DENY YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD [1468a]

God’s whole purpose with mankind is to get us to admit we are His children. So that when we have done that, we will join with the other children of God towards Him in gratitude, and will love one another, and also all those in the world, as Jesus did.

But we find many ways to avoid accepting this. We don’t or won’t believe, we don’t have time to investigate His claims on us, we find His claims too demanding, too costly. We believe that there are many ways to God or that spiritual views are too split to be able to reconcile them to one singular truth (that God is love).

We were brought up in particular religions or denominations which bent us one way or the other, so that we now find the prevailing views on spirituality, Christianity, too confused warped or distorted to give allegiance to any of them; or we cleave to one particular view, belief system or denomination and show contempt towards others.

Through Jesus, God BOUGHT us back to Himself. We now accept or reject His ownership of us, we accept or reject the correction of the Adamic error which He brought into place to free us from its consequences. But we don’t want to be free, because such freedom comes at the cost of our own selfish endeavours to provide “the good life” for ourselves.

We don’t want His kind of good life, because we might have to do that which is absolutely good and right. We might even have to love our enemies, even those who are morally corrupt, and the dirty and unwashed. We may have been one of these ourselves, “and such were some of you”.

And a simple way of avoiding God’s love in Jesus is to claim to have the truth of Him, to claim to be His true child, to have the way of the way, the truth and the life, and then to refuse to acknowledge His other true children, to refuse to fellowship with them, to claim that it is “my way or the highway”.

We are to love, not only “the brethren”, our brothers and sisters in Christ, whoever and wherever they may be and where we find them [and if we refuse to do this we are denying Christ] but to also love those of the world, and even our enemies. EVERYBODY. We are to LOVE without reservation, regardless of the “cost” to ourselves, because the “cost” to Him to enable us to do this, was far greater.

And even ‘judgement’ as to who our brethren may be, has to be suspended. “Do not judge, lest you be judged”. With the measure of judgement you give, so shall you receive. Love encompasses all. We should be so busy loving that we have no sense of judgement about who it is that we are loving. Then it won’t matter whether we consider them as “brethren” or not.

WE HAVE ONLY ONE PURPOSE – TO EXIST TO LOVE.

[For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son that whoever believes in Him will not die but have eternal life][We must be about our Father’s business]

 

THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO DENY YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD [1468]

God’s whole purpose with mankind is to get him to admit he is a child of God. So that when he has done that, he will join with the other children of God towards Him in gratitude, and they will love one another, and also all those in the world, as Jesus did.

But we find many ways to avoid accepting this. We don’t or won’t believe, we don’t have time to investigate His claims on us, we find His claims too demanding, too costly. We believe that there are many ways to God or that spiritual views are too split to be able to reconcile them to one singular truth (that God is love).

We were brought up in particular religions or denominations which bent us one way or the other, so that we now find the prevailing views on spirituality, Christianity, too confused warped or distorted to give allegiance to any of them; or we cleave to one particular view, belief system or denomination and show contempt towards others.

Through Jesus, God BOUGHT us back to Himself. We now accept or reject His ownership of us, we accept or reject the correction of the Adamic error which He brought into place to free us from its consequences. But we don’t want to be free, because such freedom comes at the cost of our own selfish endeavours to provide “the good life” for ourselves.

We don’t want His kind of good life, because we might have to do that which is absolutely good and right. We might even have to love our enemies, even those who are morally corrupt, and the dirty and unwashed. We may have been one of these ourselves, “and such were some of you”.

And a simple way of avoiding God’s love in Jesus is to claim to have the truth of Him, to claim to be His true child, to have the way of the way, the truth and the life, and then to refuse to acknowledge His other true children, to refuse to fellowship with them, to claim that it is “my way or the highway”.

We are to love, not only “the brethren”, our brothers and sisters in Christ, whoever and wherever they may be and where we find them [and if we refuse to do this we are denying Christ] but to also love those of the world, and even our enemies. EVERYBODY. We are to LOVE without reservation, regardless of the “cost” to ourselves, because the “cost” to Him to enable us to do this, was far greater.

And even ‘judgement’ as to who our brethren may be, has to be suspended. “Do not judge, lest you be judged”. With the measure of judgement you give, so shall you receive. Love encompasses all. We should be so busy loving that we have no sense of judgement about who it is that we are loving. Then it won’t matter whether we consider them as “brethren” or not.

WE HAVE ONLY ONE PURPOSE – TO EXIST TO LOVE.

[For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son that whoever believes in Him will not die but have eternal life][We must be about our Father’s business]

 

THE CROSS [5][5]b

This is an earlier version (May 31, 2015) which I omitted to include near “Cross power” [5], so please forgive any perceived difficulties.

The cross of Christ stands like a beacon in history. It is the means of an invisible eternal and supernatural God’s way of communicating with us his creative plan for mankind.

While many find it as the answer for their life, others ignore it or ridicule it. Amongst the detractors, are those who purport to be supporters, but in their explanations of it, they either accidentally or wantonly, destroy the power of the cross by giving it some meaning that is not true, or is distorted beyond accepted values.

Paul speaks about the simplicity of the cross, and how by varying from the simple straightforward delivery of its truth, into some explanation that is trying to cater for a more intellectual audience, the power of it is destroyed, since it is meant to strike the heart with a self realisation of conviction of sin and empathy for man’s condition.

The truth is, that the traditional teaching about the cross is pretty much how it is, but certain groups change it by offering explanations of the text whereby they deny the plain literality  of it in order to twist and shift its impact into something more acceptable to their doctrinal tastes.

Where it says that “he himself bore our sins in his body on the tree”, they will argue about the translation and the words and the context and the symbolism and the allegorical meaning and that a tree has no cross beam and etc. ad nauseum.

“He became sin for us”. Now, I don’t know how you are supposed to understand that from a literal point of view; it is easy to say that it was not literal, but instead was a literary device, a metaphor, and all the rest of it. The reality of these two verses is simply this. If you don’t understand what really happened on that cross, then you will have to duck and weave away from these verses as well as others. “One died for all, therefore all died”. Now we know that we didn’t actually die, because we are still here.

So there is some reason to understand some wording. But where the cross is preached, it is the impact of the words on the heart that is important. If you go messing with this then you destroy the impact, because you shift the focus from the heart to the head, and by so doing, shift the focus from an instinctive inner emotional knowledge kind of thing, into the realm of the mind and logic, and inevitably into the realm of the flesh, and consequently away from God.

It is in the heart of man that the true knowledge of our relationship or otherwise, with God, is understood. It is the emotional impact that most powerfully initiates our responses, since in the heart lie the matters of life and death, of love and fear.

There are many cross or “atonement” “theories”. Commonly is substitution, but there is also “representation” and a host of other variables. These are all just names and explanations, mostly of logic, that more appeal to the “thinking” person. But the reality lies in whatever the truth of the matter is.

So what happened on the cross? As someone once said, he wasn’t just hanging up there, he was actually DOING something.

So what was he doing? He was BEARING sin. He was dealing with it, he was absorbing it, he was destroying it, and he was suffering from it, and he was LOVING it away. So yes he was bearing our sin in his body, and he did become sin for us, although of course the metaphorical thing hangs heavily over this one.: Yet it is still literal, he DID in some way, or to some degree, literally become sin “for us”.

There is some thought that yes, he hung on the cross and yes, it would be painful, but no, there was nothing beyond this, because it was only a matter of God FORGIVING us that was the core issue to this. They do not recognise the anguish and suffering in the garden BEFORE the actual cross event, nor do they recognise the same suffering on the cross itself, And certainly the words”My God,my God, why have you forsaken me?” don’t seem to have a lot of impact on them.

For some reason,some do not recognise the COST of the cross, and in fact shrink from the very words of cost, or price. Yet these are legitimate words and explanations of what was involved in the “atonement”.

It is not recognised that the cross WAS his forgiveness towards us, and that it actually achieved a shift in our status and standing before God, which only requires our acceptance of it to become “actuated”. The cross was a contract, a “covenant”, an agreement, and a “will”. There have to be two parties to forgiveness, the forgiver and the forgiven. If there is no acceptance of the forgiveness, IE of the cross, then the state of the would be “forgiven” remains unchanged, accept of course to the list of his “sins” he now could add that of the refusal to accept the offering of the son of God as sacrifice for his sins. That the death of God’s son meant nothing to him. And so rather than accept forgiveness, he makes a judgement call that then BECOMES his judgement.

The “transaction” on the cross meant that our inevitable death was now no longer inevitable. Our death, which was the result of sin, was taken on our behalf by Jesus. How could this be? And what does God’s “wrath” have to do with it? Some religions object to the concept of one man paying for the sins of another. (but he was more than just a man).

There is the issue of the blood, upon which great emphasis is made, and again, this is to do with the “simple” aspects of presenting the cross; but HOW does blood itself do anything or save anybody. He took the WRATH of the Father may be a common concept, but along with “sacrifice”, especially when it is related to animal sacrifices as in the old testament, doesn’t go down too well. And yes, it is the common use of such things, even as the song says, “washed in the blood” that have a lot of emotional impact, and not only so, it conveys graphically the reality of the events of the cross.

Now let’s try and get into an overall explanation, so I hope all you readers are aware that as an explanation, it will not necessarily touch your heart, because we are running foul of the complicated explanation issue once again.

Let’s try and put forward some aspects which hopefully will draw together in some understandable fashion perhaps.

God is a supernatural being, he is love, and he is in the business of increasing love and its dominion, ie he seeks his own expansion. A God of love needs something to love, even someones to love. This God cannot be touched by humans, lest they die. He cannot be seen, or even approached, because “He dwells in unapproachable light”. This light though, is not all there is. The Holy Spirit is symbolised by fire. “Our God is a consuming fire”. The chaff is to be burnt after the wheat is gathered. Whatever or whoever God is, he is extremely powerful beyond understanding.

Now when we put these elements together, we discover that the natural world and God, are opposites, are opposed in nature and composition. We become aware that God’s love is actually his very nature and his Spirit in one. And we become aware that the two (his and ours) are mutually exclusive. Peter says that “the earth and the works thereon will be destroyed” [burnt up](by fire).

We discover that when God comes upon this creation, it will be consumed by his nature, and only that which is compatible with his nature will survive, being caught up with his nature and becoming part of it, of him. The rest will be totally consumed, burnt up. Christians are those who made the shift from the natural to the supernatural when they believed. They are those who, in the grace period of time that this age is, have subjected themselves willingly to the Spirit of God, and have had, both initially and ongoing, sin burnt out of them.

God said. “My Spirit will not always strive with man…”. Because of “the fall”, that event where Adam and Eve sinned, mankind has ever since been in hiding of God, in fear of judgement, just as Adam and Eve hid from God after they sinned.

So mankind cannot face up to God, for fear of facing his judgement, so they pretend he doesn’t exist, only subconsciously they know that he does. Man registers within himself the sense of justice and right and wrong in his conscience, to the extent that he can feel “God’s Wrath” upon him. But “God’s wrath”, is actually his love, and this is how his love is perceived by guilty man, as wrath.

Man cannot face God’s love, because of his sin, he expects retribution for his sin, punishment. So he cannot accept that God wants only what is good for man. His expectation of that punishment leaves him in fear (unless his conscience is dead).

The point of all this is that it is God’s love that will destroy that which is not of love, that is of sin. Love cannot allow anything that is less than love, to survive, else love is always compromised by that which is not love.

So the action of love on sin is seen and sensed as wrath. When Christ “became sin for us”, the bond between God and son was temporarily broken, so that the righteousness of the sinless Christ could be put to the test to prove the validity, and the justification, of love insofar as the purpose of the creation and the justice of allowing it to exist at all.

Internally, Christ confronted sin not his own, but that which emerged from the body of flesh that was like our own body “in every way”, “yet without sin”. Paul in Romans 7 declared that “it is not me, but sin that dwells in me”. And as Jesus’ body was racked in the turmoil and the darkness that sin is, as it produced within him every sin scenario, he confronted its unrighteousness and destroyed it with his own righteousness. And the stress of this confrontation was immense. So much so that he cried out, “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?”. There are some that dispute these words, but there are some who would dispute anything. Hitler disputed the right of the Jews to live. Pure evil.

And so, the confrontation within him between that which was good and that which was bad, where the right of life and love to exist at all was in dispute by the same element that disputed God’s integrity in the garden, and which amounted to dispute over whether the creation was justifiable in the light of the evil it produced, amounted to “God’s Wrath”.

Sin was being confronted by, and destroyed by, love. And this act is described by man as wrath.

Christ bore within his body the effective sin of mankind, having taken responsibility for it. The judgement on sin was absorbed by him, distressing though it was. God has allowed the son of his love, to love away the sin of the world. In this the Father shared, because love suffers. That is the nature of love. This love in action destroyed the sin and declared that because he is love, he has removed it from us at great cost to himself, and to his son. [the wrath took it away] Sin was judged IN Christ.

They have done this so we will not die. So that we will live. But though our eternal parent has suffered for us in removing our “iniquity”, “As far as the East is from the West”, it remains that we should recognise this and gratefully acknowledge him as Father, and his son as Son. That we recognise the necessity for sin to be judged, and accepting that it has been judged in him so that we are free of it, that we take steps to remain free of it, by believing and coming home to him.

If we do not, then that sin effectively remains within us, we have refused the judgement of sin in Christ, we will now have to accept its judgement in us, as we have refused to let go of it. Therefore, we will receive the wrath upon ourselves when he comes in flaming fire “with the angels”.

So the sin has been dealt with by his love, and we must accept his love, or at least his action of love relative to our position, so that we are accepting of his forgiveness. The action of the cross meant that “one died for all, therefore all died”. This means the death we deserve has been “accounted” for, it is no longer on God’s “books”, or any other books or ledgers. But unless we rise to his realisation and reality of life, by our belief, faith, and trust in him, that sin can remain in us.

The thing is, that he HAS dealt with sin once for all, “The just for the unjust” to bring us to God. And if we choose again, like Adam chose, to disbelieve his word, then the removal of sin will not help us, because we will remain dead without him.

2015 Random after thoughts. It’s not our sin that kills us, it’s our death that kills us. In R7 Paul is under the wrath of God. He is under the wrath of the law, for, “law brings wrath”. The opposition between law and flesh compared with the opposition of the Spirit and the flesh? “For the Spirit and flesh are opposed, so you cannot do what you want? (Galatians).

Cross afterthoughts…What if it is ALL finished? What if sin is no more and we are left “floating” as free agents with a free will, as free entities? Then it becomes only the need to absorb his life in order to be complete. Reverse engineering – what would be the best outcome for both God and man? someone said “nothing will satisfy the conscience of God that does not first satisfy the conscience of man” or was it the other way around? The cross and the wrath of the law. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil becomes the tree of life? Unlike law, you cannot have “The wrath of the Spirit”. But you can grieve the Spirit. every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. saying what God says. The greatest gift of the Spirit, is the Spirit. “equality” with God (participant in the divine nature). It is finished. It is ALL finished? We are again in the garden with God. There is no sin, we are innocent, we choose again!

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THE MECHANISM OF LIFE AND DEATH [1431b]

So we receive salvation, new life, when we switch over from what we are in the naturalness of our humanity, to what HE is in the Spiritual. The statement in R8 about “if by the Spirit we put to death the works of the flesh” is what we need to see as being the requirement or condition of ongoingly maintaining our right standing before him in terms of the result of our faith, even though the foundation which HE has laid is always before us, IE HIS sacrificial death which covers (removes) our sin.

Internally, the sin mechanism is a matter of that which involves our inner conflict, our guilt and our condemnation. We inwardly condemn ourselves, regardless of any religious notion or belief system that tells us whatever it wants to. Under the Jewish (law) system, we are condemned to death. The mercies of God are not defined in the same way that Jesus defines them, and we are continually under law flesh sin and spiritual death, until something breaks the cycle, and that break is provided by the death of Jesus as a sacrifice for “sin in the flesh”.

As soon as we believe that he was the sacrifice for our sin, we are saved, because the key to guilt has been provided and has been turned in the lock of our fear and futility, so we are now released from condemnation and the fear of its resultant death. In Romans 7 we see how, as long as the condemnation of the law is in place, we have no answer to our guilt, that even though we may try to do right, wrong always results (and anything not of and other than, the Spirit, will never be the kind of “right” that God requires.) Locked into condemnation means our spirit, our life, is trapped in meaningless cycles of fear sin guilt law and spiritual death.

When condemnation is removed, by believing, FAITH, we are free to move forward into the better things as provided by the Spirit of life as He now encourages us to lift ourselves, to be lifted up with Him into the “heavenlies” where He is available to guide and direct our paths into His ways, not our old ways. So as soon as guilt is broken, is forgiven and removed “As far as East from West”, then that which held us back from being what we were intended to be, is no longer there to do that, to oppose and impede us, as long as we maintain our belief in His power of overcoming to have already sent the “enemy” packing.

[It is the Spirit who now opposes the ‘flesh’ or natural humanity in which we used to dwell, we are no longer on our own, (We are no longer “our own”) it is His righteousness, not ours, which has won the battle for us, and which victory we, by faith, do now apply][We are no longer under the law of sin and death, we are free of it].[If you have spiritual life, you will have spiritual fruit, but if you only have humanity’s life, life in the flesh, you will have works of death, of law.]

THE MECHANISM OF LIFE AND DEATH [1431a]

So we receive salvation, new life, when we switch over from what we are in the naturalness of our humanity, to what HE is in the Spiritual. The statement in R8 about “if by the Spirit we put to death the works of the flesh” is what we need to see as being the requirement or condition of ongoingly maintaining our right standing before him in terms of the result of our faith, even though the foundation which HE has laid is always before us, IE HIS sacrificial death which covers (removes) our sin.

Internally, the sin mechanism is a matter of that which involves our inner conflict, our guilt and our condemnation. We inwardly condemn ourselves, regardless of any religious notion or belief system that tells us whatever it wants to. Under the Jewish (law) system, we are condemned to death. The mercies of God are not defined in the same way that Jesus defines them, and we are continually under law flesh sin and spiritual death, until something breaks the cycle, and that break is provided by the death of Jesus as a sacrifice for “sin in the flesh”.

As soon as we believe that he was the sacrifice for our sin, we are saved, because the key to guilt has been provided and has been turned in the lock of our fear and futility, so we are now released from condemnation and the fear of its resultant death. In Romans 7 we see how, as long as the condemnation of the law is in place, we have no answer to our guilt, that even though we may try to do right, wrong always results (and anything not of and other than, the Spirit, will never be the kind of “right” that God requires.) Locked into condemnation means our spirit, our life, is trapped in meaningless cycles of fear sin guilt law and spiritual death.

When condemnation is removed, by believing, FAITH, we are free to move forward into the better things as provided by the Spirit of life as He now encourages us to lift ourselves, to be lifted up with Him into the “heavenlies” where He is available to guide and direct our paths into His ways, not our old ways. So as soon as guilt is broken, is forgiven and removed “As far as East from West”, then that which held us back from being what we were intended to be, is no longer there to do that, to oppose and impede us, as long as we maintain our belief in His power of overcoming to have already sent the “enemy” packing.

[It is the Spirit who now opposes the ‘flesh’ or natural humanity in which we used to dwell, we are no longer on our own, (We are no longer “our own”) it is His righteousness, not ours, which has won the battle for us, and which victory we, by faith, do now apply][We are no longer under the law of sin and death, we are free of it].[If you have spiritual life, you will have spiritual fruit, but if you only have humanity’s life, life in the flesh, you will have works of death, of law.]

THE MECHANISM OF LIFE AND DEATH [1431]

So we receive salvation, new life, when we switch over from what we are in the naturalness of our humanity, to what HE is in the Spiritual. The statement in R8 about “if by the Spirit we put to death the works of the flesh” is what we need to see as being the requirement or condition of ongoingly maintaining our right standing before him in terms of the result of our faith, even though the foundation which HE has laid is always before us, IE HIS sacrificial death which covers (removes) our sin.

Internally, the sin mechanism is a matter of that which involves our inner conflict, our guilt and our condemnation. We inwardly condemn ourselves, regardless of any religious notion or belief system that tells us whatever it wants to. Under the Jewish (law) system, we are condemned to death. The mercies of God are not defined in the same way that Jesus defines them, and we are continually under law flesh sin and spiritual death, until something breaks the cycle, and that break is provided by the death of Jesus as a sacrifice for “sin in the flesh”.

As soon as we believe that he was the sacrifice for our sin, we are saved, because the key to guilt has been provided and has been turned in the lock of our fear and futility, so we are now released from condemnation and the fear of its resultant death. In Romans 7 we see how, as long as the condemnation of the law is in place, we have no answer to our guilt, that even though we may try to do right, wrong always results (and anything not of and other than, the Spirit, will never be the kind of “right” that God requires.) Locked into condemnation means our spirit, our life, is trapped in meaningless cycles of fear sin guilt law and spiritual death.

When condemnation is removed, by believing, FAITH, we are free to move forward into the better things as provided by the Spirit of life as He now encourages us to lift ourselves, to be lifted up with Him into the “heavenlies” where He is available to guide and direct our paths into His ways, not our old ways. So as soon as guilt is broken, is forgiven and removed “As far as East from West”, then that which held us back from being what we were intended to be, is no longer there to do that, to oppose and impede us, as long as we maintain our belief in His power of overcoming to have already sent the “enemy” packing.

[It is the Spirit who now opposes the ‘flesh’ or natural humanity in which we used to dwell, we are no longer on our own, (We are no longer “our own”) it is His righteousness, not ours, which has won the battle for us, and which victory we, by faith, do now apply][We are no longer under the law of sin and death, we are free of it].[If you have spiritual life, you will have spiritual fruit, but if you only have humanity’s life, life in the flesh, you will have works of death, of law.]

CHRISTIANITY AS I SEE IT [1316a]

The cross was a demonstration of God’s righteousness and love. It was also a demonstration of the effects of the evil of human nature, and the way to overcome it, the way it HAS BEEN overcome for us.

All of the words used to describe the action of the cross, of the atonement, of the situation that now applies to us because of this revelation, are couched in terms of its effectiveness and positiveness for us, and are intended to be taken at face value. “Accept meekly the implanted word which is able to save you” it says.

So when we analyse and examine these words phrases and sentences, we enter into slippery ground because  they are meant to be accepted on a faith basis, not a scientific one. For example, LOVE is the be all and end all of the faith, without which you remain dead. Yet love cannot really be analysed as a means of apprehending it. But it can be understood by apprehending the gospel through belief.

It says that He was PRESENTED AS a sacrifice for sin. This indicates that it was not actually so, but was placed in this framework of the Old Testament animal sacrifices to give IMPACT to the message it was seeking to convey.

To say that “He bore our sin” is true in the main sense, but that He bore it away out of existence altogether (as far as East is from West) is reliant upon the overall appreciation of God’s love mercy and forbearance.

His bearing of sin appears to be in the context that it was because He was of human nature, OUR human nature that HE bore “our” sin. That He suffered the fate of every man who retains human nature without deviation, rescue, from it.

The message places large importance on the aspect that it was He Himself who was the SEED of ABRAHAM. Because it makes the point that is says SEED singular, not seeds plural. And that the saving resurrection is really only HIS (The “First” resurrection) that takes place for salvation sake, in that WE join with Him in HIS resurrection and that is how we are ultimately saved, and experience our “own” resurrection, because we are “IN” Him.

Again, it says that He was the first born, so that all those who gain life do it through Him and with Him, and not of themselves. We become at one with Him, He in us and we in Him. Just as He said “I and the Father are one”, so we too, become at one with Him.

The promise of all things is of Him and through Him. The mechanics of it suggest that we gain HIS Spirit as a gift, the spirit of life, by faith, by believing the gospel message, by believing that God indeed raised Him from the dead, for OUR benefit.

Sin is said to be FORGIVEN because God is love and love forgives. The action of the cross reveals that this is the action of LOVE and is how we understand it, how it is defined, that “God so loved the world that He gave His only Son…” “We love because He first loved us”.

We know Him through the forgiveness of our sins.

All of this is held together because of the availability of the SPIRIT, which is the one mystical thing which holds all this together because it is the result of the reception of the gospel because it frees us from sin and guilt, death and darkness. [And even the Spirit can be understood as the joining of the dots of points of righteousness and the reversal of sins effects by forgiveness within us]. But it is HIS Spirit which results from His experience on earth when HE became the first of the new creation, and returned as this Spirit to us that we might be “partakers of the divine nature”.

Faith [ love 1 Cor.13] hopes all things, believes all things, endures all things. It is this willingness to believe in righteousness that enables the reception by faith of the gospel message, regardless of the ins and outs of any logical explanation. It separates the “sheep from the goats” so to speak.

Unfortunately in many cases, analysis of scripture has led to divisions in Christian tolerance, so that those who decide there are other factors involved in salvation beyond the acceptance of Christ’s sin sacrifice for us, reject those who accept the gospel in its simple intention of relief from sin and death, and the impartation of new righteous life, and instead make other demands before the person is accepted into their particular breed of heresy, from where they attempt to justify themselves on the basis of superior knowledge or compliance with demands other than simple belief. The cleansing of the heart by faith is not enough for them.

[He tasted death for every man][minor disagreements over doctrine are relatively unimportant, although it is hard to understand how in the face of abundant scripture to the contrary, that people believe you go anywhere but the grave when you die, or that Paul in Romans 7 is speaking as Christian, when it represents everything that a Christian is NOT, but that a slave to sin IS]

CHRISTIANITY AS I SEE IT [1316]

The cross was a demonstration of God’s righteousness and love. It was also a demonstration of the effects of the evil of human nature, and the way to overcome it, the way it HAS BEEN overcome for us.

All of the words used to describe the action of the cross, of the atonement, of the situation that now applies to us because of this revelation, are couched in terms of its effectiveness and positiveness for us, and are intended to be taken at face value. “Accept meekly the implanted word which is able to save you” it says.

So when we analyse and examine these words phrases and sentences, we enter into slippery ground because  they are meant to be accepted on a faith basis, not a scientific one. For example, LOVE is the be all and end all of the faith, without which you remain dead. Yet love cannot really be analysed as a means of apprehending it. But it can be understood by apprehending the gospel through belief.

It says that He was PRESENTED AS a sacrifice for sin. This indicates that it was not actually so, but was placed in this framework of the Old Testament animal sacrifices to give IMPACT to the message it was seeking to convey.

To say that “He bore our sin” is true in the main sense, but that He bore it away out of existence altogether (as far as East is from West) is reliant upon the overall appreciation of God’s love mercy and forbearance.

His bearing of sin appears to be in the context that it was because He was of human nature, OUR human nature that HE bore “our” sin. That He suffered the fate of every man who retains human nature without deviation, rescue, from it.

The message places large importance on the aspect that it was He Himself who was the SEED of ABRAHAM. Because it makes the point that is says SEED singular, not seeds plural. And that the saving resurrection is really only HIS (The “First” resurrection) that takes place for salvation sake, in that WE join with Him in HIS resurrection and that is how we are ultimately saved, and experience our “own” resurrection, because we are “IN” Him.

Again, it says that He was the first born, so that all those who gain life do it through Him and with Him, and not of themselves. We become at one with Him, He in us and we in Him. Just as He said “I and the Father are one”, so we too, become at one with Him.

The promise of all things is of Him and through Him. The mechanics of it suggest that we gain HIS Spirit as a gift, the spirit of life, by faith, by believing the gospel message, by believing that God indeed raised Him from the dead, for OUR benefit.

Sin is said to be FORGIVEN because God is love and love forgives. The action of the cross reveals that this is the action of LOVE and is how we understand it, how it is defined, that “God so loved the world that He gave His only Son…” “We love because He first loved us”.

We know Him through the forgiveness of our sins.

All of this is held together because of the availability of the SPIRIT, which is the one mystical thing which holds all this together because it is the result of the reception of the gospel because it frees us from sin and guilt, death and darkness. [And even the Spirit can be understood as the joining of the dots of points of righteousness and the reversal of sins effects by forgiveness within us]. But it is HIS Spirit which results from His experience on earth when HE became the first of the new creation, and returned as this Spirit to us that we might be “partakers of the divine nature”.

Faith [Love 1 Cor.13] hopes all things, believes all things, endures all things. It is this willingness to believe in righteousness that enables the reception by faith of the gospel message, regardless of the ins and outs of any logical explanation. It separates the “sheep from the goats” so to speak.

Unfortunately in many cases, analysis of scripture has led to divisions in Christian tolerance, so that those who decide there are other factors involved in salvation beyond the acceptance of Christ’s sin sacrifice for us, reject those who accept the gospel in its simple intention of relief from sin and death, and the impartation of new righteous life, and instead make other demands before the person is accepted into their particular breed of heresy, from where they attempt to justify themselves on the basis of superior knowledge or compliance with demands other than simple belief. The cleansing of the heart by faith is not enough for them.

[He tasted death for every man][minor disagreements over doctrine are relatively unimportant, although it is hard to understand how in the face of abundant scripture to the contrary, that people believe you go anywhere but the grave when you die, or that Paul in Romans 7 is speaking as Christian, when it represents everything that a Christian is NOT, but that a slave to sin IS]

THE ONE WHO ACCEPTS THE SACRIFICE BECOMES AT ONE WITH HIM IN IT [1300b]

Those who love what Jesus has done for them, will join with Him on the cross. The cross breaks our relationship with law. Empathy can cause an internalisation of the sacrifice, we with Him. In this, we “die” with Him, but then also rise with Him. “If only we suffer with Him”, and, ‘if we die a death similar to His’.

In God’s plan we have been caused to die with Him (and rise with Him) if and as we believe in Him. It is there for all who believe, it will not become the design intended if no belief is provided by the recipient.

By internalising the sacrifice, we internalise HIM. This is how Christ is “formed in us”.

We become at one with Him, His death and resurrection, and this is why we will be resurrected when He appears.

It is the change which occurs in us that will become the new body, supplanting the old, or even being resurrected as the new body by virtue of the changed old one. [His Spirit will give life also to your mortal bodies]

Jesus came that we might be repeated in Him, that He might be repeated in us, that there may be many sons of God.

“Present your bodies a living sacrifice”.

It may be understood by the (used to be) common phrase ‘we take it to heart’.

[Unless you eat my body and drink my blood you have no life in you][For my body is real food and my blood real drink].[love breaks our relationship with law][He has come to give us understanding][We identify with His identification with us]