YOU WILL ENTER THE NEXT WORLD IN THE SAME SPIRITUAL CONDITION YOU LEAVE THIS ONE [1371a]

The common theme of sects and cults and all who deviate from the central message of the true gospel, and as seen on many a TV “Christian” programme, is that of THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

They place this kingdom of God IN THE FUTURE, and other common themes are that Jesus is not divine, or at least not in the sense that TRINITARIANS would place Him. So that in this regard, they DENY THE RETURNED SPIRIT OF JESUS AS A PERSONAL “POSSESSION”.

Now fair enough that yes, the final outcome will see the fulfillment, the culmination of the gospel message in its final reality when the present physical creation vanishes and the new one emerges. AND that the hope of the Christian is for his new immortal body.

BUT

What they are hiding is that the kingdom is supposed to be revealed NOW in His people. People talk about “dying and going to heaven”, but the word says that this has already happened, that we have been risen into heaven with Christ. From where we rule with Him, NOW.

SO

They deny the full revelation that the SPIRIT has come NOW that we be empowered NOW with the fullness of  Christ.

The FULLNESS is NOW, The ‘kingdom’ is NOW, The Spirit is NOW, the resurrection is NOW.

Not so much THEN!! There will be no “then” if you do not see it happening NOW.

If they can convince you that your spiritual life is not in the PRESENT, but only in the FUTURE, then they have bound you to this life, denying you of the very power needed to fulfill your eternal life NOW.

This is why they reduce the fullness of the Spirit as seen at Pentecost, to some poor concoction of their own making, usually in the form of supposedly being as a result of bible study, or bible knowledge, of the written word.

THIS IS WHY THEY PREACH LAW, or at least disguise it in amongst what they say is “The gospel” well IT MAY BE THEIR GOSPEL, BUT NOT THE GOSPEL.

This can also be seen in an approach to Romans chapter 7, if it is represented as being a sample of the Christian life. To do this means to continue to tolerate that which Jesus has plainly destroyed so that it may be rendered powerless over us. Romans 7 teaches what we now have victory over, regardless of whether or not as individuals we “fail the test” as Paul said. The Jesus Christ to be in us is Him in His fullness, not some poor half starved version of Him.

This is a great deception and it is being pushed on us from many directions. DON’T BE FOOLED. [Or “bewitched”].

[P.S. The other common theme they use is prophesy]

YOU WILL ENTER THE NEXT WORLD IN THE SAME SPIRITUAL CONDITION YOU LEAVE THIS ONE [1371]

The common theme of sects and cults and all who deviate from the central message of the true gospel, and as seen on many a TV “Christian” programme, is that of THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

They place this kingdom of God IN THE FUTURE, and other common themes are that Jesus is not divine, or at least not in the sense that TRINITARIANS would place Him. So that in this regard, they DENY THE RETURNED SPIRIT OF JESUS AS A PERSONAL “POSSESSION”.

Now fair enough that yes, the final outcome will see the fulfillment, the culmination of the gospel message in its final reality when the present physical creation vanishes and the new one emerges. AND that the hope of the Christian is for his new immortal body.

BUT

What they are hiding is that the kingdom is supposed to be revealed NOW in His people. People talk about “dying and going to heaven”, but the word says that this has already happened, that we have been risen into heaven with Christ. From where we rule with Him, NOW.

SO

They deny the full revelation that the SPIRIT has come NOW that we be empowered NOW with the fullness of  Christ.

The FULLNESS is NOW, The ‘kingdom’ is NOW, The Spirit is NOW, the resurrection is NOW.

Not so much THEN!! There will be no “then” if you do not see it happening NOW.

If they can convince you that your spiritual life is not in the PRESENT, but only in the FUTURE, then they have bound you to this life, denying you of the very power needed to fulfill your eternal life NOW.

This is why they reduce the fullness of the Spirit as seen at Pentecost, to some poor concoction of their own making, usually in the form of supposedly being as a result of bible study, or bible knowledge, of the written word.

THIS IS WHY THEY PREACH LAW, or at least disguise it in amongst what they say is “The gospel” well IT MAY BE THEIR GOSPEL, BUT NOT THE GOSPEL.

This can also be seen in an approach to Romans chapter 7, if it is represented as being a sample of the Christian life. To do this means to continue to tolerate that which Jesus has plainly destroyed so that it may be rendered powerless over us. Romans 7 teaches what we now have victory over, regardless of whether or not as individuals we “fail the test” as Paul said. The Jesus Christ to be in us is Him in His fullness, not some poor half starved version of Him.

This is a great deception and it is being pushed on us from many directions. DON’T BE FOOLED. [Or “bewitched”].

[P.S. The other common theme they use is prophesy]

THE SPECIFIC NARROWNESS OF WHAT REAL CHRISTIANS BELIEVE [1218e]

What we believe cannot be that which emanates from any cult or sect or even denominational source in its broader implications, and definitely not from any other religion or world religion or philosophy. The specificity can be demonstrated by the words in Acts regarding what it was that ‘they’ believed, having NOT received the Spirit, words to the effect that “What then is it that you have believed?”

To receive the Spirit is reliant on one basic thing, believing that Jesus died for our sins and then rose again to eternal life.

Nothing else is central or relevant to this faith commitment, and it is the destruction of this singularly particular, finely honed point of belief, that the enemies of the cross are hell bent on achieving by any means they can.

‘At variant’ groups who refuse to fellowship with the central body of Christians who hold to this core issue as being all that is necessary to enter the kingdom of God, are revealing their condemnation as being fixed and firmly centred in and from Hell. I say that not as some doctrinal concept, but with all the venom [alright then, LOVE] that could be mustered against these groups who themselves are using this very phrase “what is it you believe” in a very tightly structured ORGANISED ATTACK by the use of insisting on tight doctrinal structures WHICH BY THEIR VERY NATURE DENY CHRIST AND THE MEANS BY WHICH WE ARE SAVED.

You can look up lists of these supposedly “Christian” groups sects cults or even abhorrent popular mainstream ‘denominational’ ones (that may have been in the news recently as child abusers). Even further out of whack ones may be constantly associated with  Judaism in some way eg those who love to hate anything that smells of “trinity” and who usually claim to be ‘unitarian’ or whatever. Their denial of a ‘multi faceted’ God is the very thing that puts the stake through the heart of Christianity, being that it DENIES THE SPIRIT of that tight definition of the nature of Christ’s sacrifice.

It is the very BROADNESS of the nature of love in its acceptance of everybody, that defines its own nature as being very NARROW, very specifically being that which EXCLUDES all that which would otherwise EXCLUDE people from being welcomed into its embrace.

And it is the exclusion of those who simply seek to be EMBRACED BY LOVE, by God through Jesus, that the enemies of the cross pursue to their own damnation, having by this WILFULLY excluded themselves from its power to save, and wanting to take everybody else down to the pit with them.

[By approaching in its broadness, all those on the ‘broad’ path, it draws them back to the narrow path which Jesus is][People like “exclusive brethren” says it all][Others are so exclusive as to kick out their own members who dare to differ from their rigid doctrines][******] [God will exclude the excluders][the fire of the Spirit burns away and will burn away all that is not of the nature of love, of itself, Himself]

THE SPECIFIC NARROWNESS OF WHAT REAL CHRISTIANS BELIEVE [1218d]

What we believe cannot be that which emanates from any cult or sect or even denominational source in its broader implications, and definitely not from any other religion or world religion or philosophy. The specificity can be demonstrated by the words in Acts regarding what it was that ‘they’ believed, having NOT received the Spirit, words to the effect that “What then is it that you have believed?”

To receive the Spirit is reliant on one basic thing, believing that Jesus died for our sins and then rose again to eternal life.

Nothing else is central or relevant to this faith commitment, and it is the destruction of this singularly particular, finely honed point of belief, that the enemies of the cross are hell bent on achieving by any means they can.

‘At variant’ groups who refuse to fellowship with the central body of Christians who hold to this core issue as being all that is necessary to enter the kingdom of God, are revealing their condemnation as being fixed and firmly centred in and from Hell. I say that not as some doctrinal concept, but with all the venom [alright then, LOVE] that could be mustered against these groups who themselves are using this very phrase “what is it you believe” in a very tightly structured ORGANISED ATTACK by the use of insisting on tight doctrinal structures WHICH BY THEIR VERY NATURE DENY CHRIST AND THE MEANS BY WHICH WE ARE SAVED.

You can look up lists of these supposedly “Christian” groups sects cults or even abhorrent popular mainstream ‘denominational’ ones (that may have been in the news recently as child abusers). Even further out of whack ones may be constantly associated with  Judaism in some way eg those who love to hate anything that smells of “trinity” and who usually claim to be ‘unitarian’ or whatever. Their denial of a ‘multi faceted’ God is the very thing that puts the stake through the heart of Christianity, being that it DENIES THE SPIRIT of that tight definition of the nature of Christ’s sacrifice.

It is the very BROADNESS of the nature of love in its acceptance of everybody, that defines its own nature as being very NARROW, very specifically being that which EXCLUDES all that which would otherwise EXCLUDE people from being welcomed into its embrace.

And it is the exclusion of those who simply seek to be EMBRACED BY LOVE, by God through Jesus, that the enemies of the cross pursue to their own damnation, having by this WILFULLY excluded themselves from its power to save, and wanting to take everybody else down to the pit with them.

[By approaching in its broadness, all those on the ‘broad’ path, it draws them back to the narrow path which Jesus is][People like “exclusive brethren” says it all][Others are so exclusive as to kick out their own members who dare to differ from their rigid doctrines][******] [God will exclude the excluders]

THE SPECIFIC NARROWNESS OF WHAT REAL CHRISTIANS BELIEVE [1218c]

What we believe cannot be that which emanates from any cult or sect or even denominational source in its broader implications, and definitely not from any other religion or world religion or philosophy. The specificity can be demonstrated by the words in Acts regarding what it was that ‘they’ believed, having NOT received the Spirit, words to the effect that “What then is it that you have believed?”

To receive the Spirit is reliant on one basic thing, believing that Jesus died for our sins and then rose again to eternal life.

Nothing else is central or relevant to this faith commitment, and it is the destruction of this singularly particular, finely honed point of belief, that the enemies of the cross are hell bent on achieving by any means they can.

‘At variant’ groups who refuse to fellowship with the central body of Christians who hold to this core issue as being all that is necessary to enter the kingdom of God, are revealing their condemnation as being fixed and firmly centred in and from Hell. I say that not as some doctrinal concept, but with all the venom [alright then, LOVE] that could be mustered against these groups who themselves are using this very phrase “what is it you believe” in a very tightly structured ORGANISED ATTACK by the use of insisting on tight doctrinal structures WHICH BY THEIR VERY NATURE DENY CHRIST AND THE MEANS BY WHICH WE ARE SAVED.

You can look up lists of these supposedly “Christian” groups sects cults or even abhorrent popular mainstream ‘denominational’ ones (that may have been in the news recently as child abusers). Even further out of whack ones may be constantly associated with  Judaism in some way eg those who love to hate anything that smells of “trinity” and who usually claim to be ‘unitarian’ or whatever. Their denial of a ‘multi faceted’ God is the very thing that puts the stake through the heart of Christianity, being that it DENIES THE SPIRIT of that tight definition of the nature of Christ’s sacrifice.

It is the very BROADNESS of the nature of love in its acceptance of everybody, that defines its own nature as being very NARROW, very specifically being that which EXCLUDES all that which would otherwise EXCLUDE people from being welcomed into its embrace.

And it is the exclusion of those who simply seek to be EMBRACED BY LOVE, by God through Jesus, that the enemies of the cross pursue to their own damnation, having by this WILFULLY excluded themselves from its power to save, and wanting to take everybody else down to the pit with them.

[By approaching in its broadness, all those on the ‘broad’ path, it draws them back to the narrow path which Jesus is][People like “exclusive brethren” says it all][Others are so exclusive as to kick out their own members who dare to differ from their rigid doctrines][******] [God will exclude the excluders]

THE SPECIFIC NARROWNESS OF WHAT REAL CHRISTIANS BELIEVE [1218b]

What we believe cannot be that which emanates from any cult or sect or even denominational source in its broader implications, and definitely not from any other religion or world religion or philosophy. The specificity can be demonstrated by the words in Acts regarding what it was that ‘they’ believed, having NOT received the Spirit, words to the effect that “What then is it that you have believed?”

To receive the Spirit is reliant on one basic thing, believing that Jesus died for our sins and then rose again to eternal life.

Nothing else is central or relevant to this faith commitment, and it is the destruction of this singularly particular, finely honed point of belief, that the enemies of the cross are hell bent on achieving by any means they can.

‘At variant’ groups who refuse to fellowship with the central body of Christians who hold to this core issue as being all that is necessary to enter the kingdom of God, are revealing their condemnation as being fixed and firmly centred in and from Hell. I say that not as some doctrinal concept, but with all the venom [alright then, LOVE] that could be mustered against these groups who themselves are using this very phrase “what is it you believe” in a very tightly structured ORGANISED ATTACK by the use of insisting on tight doctrinal structures WHICH BY THEIR VERY NATURE DENY CHRIST AND THE MEANS BY WHICH WE ARE SAVED.

You can look up lists of these supposedly “Christian” groups sects cults or even abhorrent popular mainstream ‘denominational’ ones (that may have been in the news recently as child abusers). Even further out of whack ones may be constantly associated with  Judaism in some way eg those who love to hate anything that smells of “trinity” and who usually claim to be ‘unitarian’ or whatever. Their denial of a ‘multi faceted’ God is the very thing that puts the stake through the heart of Christianity, being that it DENIES THE SPIRIT of that tight definition of the nature of Christ’s sacrifice.

It is the very BROADNESS of the nature of love in its acceptance of everybody, that defines its own nature as being very NARROW, very specifically being that which EXCLUDES all that which would otherwise EXCLUDE people from being welcomed into its embrace.

And it is the exclusion of those who simply seek to be EMBRACED BY LOVE, by God through Jesus, that the enemies of the cross pursue to their own damnation, having by this WILFULLY excluded themselves from its power to save, and wanting to take everybody else down to the pit with them.

[By approaching in its broadness, all those on the ‘broad’ path, it draws them back to the narrow path which Jesus is][People like “exclusive brethren” says it all][Others are so exclusive as to kick out their own members who dare to differ from their rigid doctrines][******] [God will exclude the excluders]

THE SPECIFIC NARROWNESS OF WHAT REAL CHRISTIANS BELIEVE [1218a]

What we believe cannot be that which emanates from any cult or sect or even denominational source in its broader implications, and definitely not from any other religion or world religion or philosophy. The specificity can be demonstrated by the words in Acts regarding what it was that ‘they’ believed, having NOT received the Spirit, words to the effect that “What then is it that you have believed?”

To receive the Spirit is reliant on one basic thing, believing that Jesus died for our sins and then rose again to eternal life.

Nothing else is central or relevant to this faith commitment, and it is the destruction of this singularly particular, finely honed point of belief, that the enemies of the cross are hell bent on achieving by any means they can.

‘At variant’ groups who refuse to fellowship with the central body of Christians who hold to this core issue as being all that is necessary to enter the kingdom of God, are revealing their condemnation as being fixed and firmly centred in and from Hell. I say that not as some doctrinal concept, but with all the venom [alright then, LOVE] that could be mustered against these groups who themselves are using this very phrase “what is it you believe” in a very tightly structured ORGANISED ATTACK by the use of insisting on tight doctrinal structures WHICH BY THEIR VERY NATURE DENY CHRIST AND THE MEANS BY WHICH WE ARE SAVED.

You can look up lists of these supposedly “Christian” groups sects cults or even abhorrent popular mainstream ‘denominational’ ones (that may have been in the news recently as child abusers). Even further out of whack ones may be constantly associated with  Judaism in some way eg those who love to hate anything that smells of “trinity” and who usually claim to be ‘unitarian’ or whatever. Their denial of a ‘multi faceted’ God is the very thing that puts the stake through the heart of Christianity, being that it DENIES THE SPIRIT of that tight definition of the nature of Christ’s sacrifice.

It is the very BROADNESS of the nature of love in its acceptance of everybody, that defines its own nature as being very NARROW, very specifically being that which EXCLUDES all that which would otherwise EXCLUDE people from being welcomed into its embrace.

And it is the exclusion of those who simply seek to be EMBRACED BY LOVE, by God through Jesus, that the enemies of the cross pursue to their own damnation, having by this WILFULLY excluded themselves from its power to save, and wanting to take everybody else down to the pit with them.

[By approaching in its broadness, all those on the ‘broad’ path, it draws them back to the narrow path which Jesus is][People like “exclusive brethren” says it all][Others are so exclusive as to kick out their own members who dare to differ from their rigid doctrines][******] [God will exclude the excluders]

THE SPECIFIC NARROWNESS OF WHAT REAL CHRISTIANS BELIEVE [1218]

What we believe cannot be that which emanates from any cult or sect or even denominational source in its broader implications, and definitely not from any other religion or world religion or philosophy. The specificity can be demonstrated by the words in Acts regarding what it was that ‘they’ believed, having NOT received the Spirit, words to the effect that “What then is it that you have believed?”

To receive the Spirit is reliant on one basic thing, believing that Jesus died for our sins and then rose again to eternal life.

Nothing else is central or relevant to this faith commitment, and it is the destruction of this singularly particular, finely honed point of belief, that the enemies of the cross are hell bent on achieving by any means they can.

‘At variant’ groups who refuse to fellowship with the central body of Christians who hold to this core issue as being all that is necessary to enter the kingdom of God, are revealing their condemnation as being fixed and firmly centred in and from Hell. I say that not as some doctrinal concept, but with all the venom [alright then, LOVE] that could be mustered against these groups who themselves are using this very phrase “what is it you believe” in a very tightly structured ORGANISED ATTACK by the use of insisting on tight doctrinal structures WHICH BY THEIR VERY NATURE DENY CHRIST AND THE MEANS BY WHICH WE ARE SAVED.

You can look up lists of these supposedly “Christian” groups sects cults or even abhorrent popular mainstream ‘denominational’ ones (that may have been in the news recently as child abusers). Even further out of whack ones may be constantly associated with  Judaism in some way eg those who love to hate anything that smells of “trinity” and who usually claim to be ‘unitarian’ or whatever. Their denial of a ‘multi faceted’ God is the very thing that puts the stake through the heart of Christianity, being that it DENIES THE SPIRIT of that tight definition of the nature of Christ’s sacrifice.

It is the very BROADNESS of the nature of love in its acceptance of everybody, that defines its own nature as being very NARROW, very specifically being that which EXCLUDES all that which would otherwise EXCLUDE people from being welcomed into its embrace.

And it is the exclusion of those who simply seek to be EMBRACED BY LOVE, by God through Jesus, that the enemies of the cross pursue to their own damnation, having by this WILFULLY excluded themselves from its power to save, and wanting to take everybody else down to the pit with them.

[By approaching in its broadness, all those on the ‘broad’ path, it draws them back to the narrow path which Jesus is][People like “exclusive brethren” says it all][Others are so exclusive as to kick out their own members who dare to differ from their rigid doctrines][******][God will exclude the excluders]

IS GOD THREE ENTITIES IN ONE OR ONE ENTITY IN THREE? [1105a]

Trinity raises a lot of ire in some people. They either hate it or love it, and tend to judge people by it. The Unitarians insist that there is only one God who does not show up in multiple forms. He is the one and only and there can be no other like Him.

But some of these people believe in Jesus the son. Obviously they cannot believe that Jesus returns to the Father as anything other than that son. And they also cannot believe that Jesus can be anywhere that is other than once on earth and then eternity with the Father, AS the Son. That He cannot also be the “Spirit”. And Trinitarians seem to believe also that the Spirit is a separate entity to the Son. (Although He said “I am with you, and will be IN you”.)  [“If anyone has not the Spirit of Christ he is none of His”]

Trinitarian belief seems to believe that there is a “god-head” of three equal? parts. But what is this really saying? The Unitarians won’t have a bar of Jesus being pre-existent with God (Although HE said “Before Abraham was, I AM”.) And his humanity is the only thing they will consider, certainly not any form of divine nature? “Although He said “I have come down from heaven…”.

Would it be difficult to accept that God has existed by extension in other forms? That he used Jesus as the body for His Spirit, that HE gave His Spirit in the form and attitude of the Son, if not actually BEING the Son, which He well could have been? That Jesus pre-existed because He was always in the mind and heart of the Father, just as the Father was always in the mind and heart of His Son?

So the Father has been everywhere at all times in everything. But it also says that “the word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory,…  “He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him”.

“He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”… “And the word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.”

Is this worth fighting about? it seems that those who have an axe to grind, grind it for their own purposes. It is highly suspicious that those who are anti trinity also deny the Spirit as being the believer’s supernatural acquisition. By doing this it seems they deny the very means of salvation, that being the gift of God of His son, initially as the human sacrifice and then as the indwelling Spirit, the comforter, the Spirit of truth.

They offer their own explanations contrary to convention, by which they manage to manipulate doctrine to suit their own ends by forming exclusive groups based on the qualities, not of God or His Son or His Spirit, but on their own intellect. They fall on the “rock of offense”, Jesus, in whom simple faith delivers the masses from destruction. Those who would exclude others from fellowship in Christ on the basis of this and other doctrinal issues, will themselves by Christ be excluded from Him and His kingdom, even as they currently are already so excluded.

[“There is one name given under heaven by which we must be saved” – and it’s not “Jehovah” or any name other than JESUS.] [We will come to him and make OUR home with Him]

IS GOD THREE ENTITIES IN ONE OR ONE ENTITY IN THREE? [1105]

Trinity raises a lot of ire in some people. They either hate it or love it, and tend to judge people by it. The Unitarians insist that there is only one God who does not show up in multiple forms. He is the one and only and there can be no other like Him.

But some of these people believe in Jesus the son. Obviously they cannot believe that Jesus returns to the Father as anything other than that son. And they also cannot believe that Jesus can be anywhere that is other than once on earth and then eternity with the Father, AS the Son. That He cannot also be the “Spirit”. And Trinitarians seem to believe also that the Spirit is a separate entity to the Son. (Although He said “I am with you, and will be IN you”.)  [“If anyone has not the Spirit of Christ he is none of His”]

Trinitarian belief seems to believe that there is a “god-head” of three equal? parts. But what is this really saying? The Unitarians won’t have a bar of Jesus being pre-existent with God (Although HE said “Before Abraham was, I AM”.) And his humanity is the only thing they will consider, certainly not any form of divine nature? “Although He said “I have come down from heaven…”.

Would it be difficult to accept that God has existed by extension in other forms? That he used Jesus as the body for His Spirit, that HE gave His Spirit in the form and attitude of the Son, if not actually BEING the Son, which He well could have been? That Jesus pre-existed because He was always in the mind and heart of the Father, just as the Father was always in the mind and heart of His Son?

So the Father has been everywhere at all times in everything. But it also says that “the word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory,…  “He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him”.

“He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”… “And the word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.”

Is this worth fighting about? it seems that those who have an axe to grind, grind it for their own purposes. It is highly suspicious that those who are anti trinity also deny the Spirit as being the believer’s supernatural acquisition. By doing this it seems they deny the very means of salvation, that being the gift of God of His son, initially as the human sacrifice and then as the indwelling Spirit, the comforter, the Spirit of truth.

They offer their own explanations contrary to convention, by which they manage to manipulate doctrine to suit their own ends by forming exclusive groups based on the qualities, not of God or His Son or His Spirit, but on their own intellect. They fall on the “rock of offense”, Jesus, in whom simple faith delivers the masses from destruction. Those who would exclude others from fellowship in Christ on the basis of this and other doctrinal issues, will themselves by Christ be excluded from Him and His kingdom, even as they currently are already so excluded.

[“There is one name given under heaven by which we must be saved” – and it’s not “Jehovah” or any name other than JESUS.] [We will come to him and make OUR home with Him]