WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON THE CROSS [4045a]

It says that one died for all therefore all died. It also says that we were crucified with Him. When He died, we died. When He was crucified, we were crucified. It is also apparent that all not “in” Jesus are dead under the law. Whichever way you look at it, we are spoken of as being dead and not alive in any form, whether physical or spiritual.

Therefore it is no surprise that what Jesus is doing is to reveal to us this state of death of the natural born man of flesh and blood. And “sin” is blamed, and all but Jesus are accounted as sinners who are “dead” under the “law of sin and death”.

It remains then for the grace of God to be revealed in providing some way out of death and into life, since our natural state is that only of death.

The death of Jesus did nothing* to change anything in itself. Jesus was a man just like us, so that His death could represent our death also, and make us one like Him and Him one like us. EXCEPT that His death was temporary because He contained the nature of God within Himself, so that once His body was dead, His spirit could by the power of God having given birth to newness of bodily life by that righteous spirit, rise to resurrection life in new bodily form.

So where does that leave us? Having already been declared dead in ourselves, God reaches out to us to say that if we recognise our own death state, and are prepared to leave it behind, that death being righteous because there being nothing of life worthy in us; then our death is forgiven by His mercy towards us and overlooked if we cleave to Him in recognition of His love as now provided through His Son, who in the new form of the Spirit is made available to us through His love being desirous of us to captivate us through our empathy with His empathy for us in revelation of the love that He is.

This above statement of account operates in reality by our spontaneous heart recognition of the pain and suffering we ourselves encounter in life and are concerned about, and then see in Him on the cross as being that which we deserve but which has been taken by Him on our account, for us. The revealing of sin having been dealt with in this way shows that we also must be sensitive to the pain of sin and especially our own sin.

This is why it can say that “those who are His have crucified the (our) flesh [with its passions and desires]”. Our empathy performs this crucifixion of self along with Him, as we “own our sin” which we now can do because He has paid for it for us. Truth demands we then operate outside of this former death which loses its power over us to conform us to itself and instead, we are released from the power of it and the structure of laws within our minds that confined us only to logical and defensive mechanisms: and now leaves us to follow His Spirit by way of its (His) immediate presence without regard for legalistic processes of rationalisation.

We gain a new ‘mindset’ unlike the former one which was forced to accommodate compromise and servitude to the sinful mindset, but which now places us in ‘servitude’ to Jesus the Prince of righteousness instead. His cross defined His and God’s love. We now allow love to control us in its outworking towards others, without regard for ourselves other than that we follow Him above all else.

So our sins fell on Him only in the broader picture of His love for us and our sinful condition falling on His conscience in conjunction with His own fleshly deficiencies which He ‘repaired’ by His own righteousness in the lead up to His death.

It is our recognition of and conformity to this truth that allows life enduing change to occur in us.

One web article on this subject is (https://credomag.com/article/what-really-happened-on-the-cross-part-1/#SnippetTab

[Just as Paul in Romans 7 revealed the fallen state of man, so too on the cross does Jesus reveal the identification with, and the healing of, this condition] [The cross was forgiveness for all but it has to be received to be effective] [We must be participant by our compliance as inherent in our belief] [As we trust in Him, our identity shifts from one of ourselves to that of Himself].

  • The death of Jesus, though it ‘did nothing of itself’, ushered in the new covenant whereby a new commandment was given and various “laws” of grace appeared which superceded those of the old covenant.

CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT JESUS DEATH [4045]

It says that one died for all therefore all died. It also says that we were crucified with Him. When He died, we died. When He was crucified, we were crucified. It is also apparent that all not “in” Jesus are dead under the law. Whichever way you look at it, we are spoken of as being dead and not alive in any form, whether physical or spiritual.

Therefore it is no surprise that what Jesus is doing is to reveal to us this state of death of the natural born man of flesh and blood. And “sin” is blamed, and all but Jesus are accounted as sinners who are “dead” under the “law of sin and death”.

It remains then for the grace of God to be revealed in providing some way out of death and into life, since our natural state is that only of death.

The death of Jesus did nothing to change anything in itself. Jesus was a man just like us, so that His death could represent our death also, and make us one like Him and Him one like us. EXCEPT that His death was temporary because He contained the nature of God within Himself, so that once His body was dead, His spirit could by the power of God having given birth to newness of bodily life by that righteous spirit, rise to resurrection life in new bodily form.

So where does that leave us? Having already been declared dead in ourselves, God reaches out to us to say that if we recognise our own death state, and are prepared to leave it behind, that death being righteous because there being nothing of life worthy in us; then our death is forgiven by His mercy towards us and overlooked if we cleave to Him in recognition of His love as now provided through His Son, who in the new form of the Spirit is made available to us through His love being desirous of us to captivate us through our empathy with His empathy for us in revelation of the love that He is.

This above statement of account operates in reality by our spontaneous heart recognition of the pain and suffering we ourselves encounter in life and are concerned about, and then see in Him on the cross as being that which we deserve but which has been taken by Him on our account, for us. The revealing of sin having been dealt with in this way shows that we also must be sensitive to the pain of sin and especially our own sin.

This is why it can say that “those who are His have crucified the (our) flesh [with its passions and desires]”. Our empathy performs this crucifixion of self along with Him, as we “own our sin” which we now can do because He has paid for it for us. Truth demands we then operate outside of this former death which loses its power over us to conform us to itself and instead, we are released from the power of it and the structure of laws within our minds that confined us only to logical and defensive mechanisms: and now leaves us to follow His Spirit by way of its (His) immediate presence without regard for legalistic processes of rationalisation.

We gain a new ‘mindset’ unlike the former one which was forced to accommodate compromise and servitude to the sinful mindset, but which now places us in ‘servitude’ to Jesus the Prince of righteousness instead. His cross defined His and God’s love. We now allow love to control us in its outworking towards others, without regard for ourselves other than that we follow Him above all else.

So our sins fell on Him only in the broader picture of His love for us and our sinful condition falling on His conscience in conjunction with His own fleshly deficiencies which He ‘repaired’ by His own righteousness in the lead up to His death.

It is our recognition of and conformity to this truth that allows life enduing change to occur in us.

One web article on this subject is (https://credomag.com/article/what-really-happened-on-the-cross-part-1/#SnippetTab

[Just as Paul in Romans 7 revealed the fallen state of man, so too on the cross does Jesus reveal the identification with, and the healing of, this condition] [The cross was forgiveness for all but it has to be received to be effective] [We must be participant by our compliance as inherent in our belief].

ANY MAN IN CHRIST IS A NEW CREATION [1922a]

Due to covid I am composing writing with pen and paper instead of the keyboard, which may cause some change in the creative flow, but we will see……The old is gone, the new is come…the quote continues?

In the previous post I raised questions as to the literality of the book of Revelation, not meaning that this book did not exist, nor that its content had no validity, but just that the imagery it used was not in itself, LITERAL. I.E. it was not “Real”, there would be no actual beast rising up out of the sea etc, but that such images only REPRESENTED some supposed reality or other.

This was in response to another prior post seeking to correctly present the context and meaning of the “First Resurrection”, so that it was not incorrectly placed within the structure of this extremely prophetic book of IMAGERY in the way that most people have done as a result of reading it as LITERAL.

This could be compared with the ‘6 days of creation of the earth’ or with the AGE of the earth as to the question of literality.

But we have to be able to see what scripture is saying, and the simplicity of it all hinges around the problem of man’s mortality, and then the solution of his immortality, and it all focuses on his BODY, which scripture states to be the very hope of mankind’s salvation.

The ‘competition’ exists between man’s human existence versus his spiritual existence. The problem is that man has decided to separate these two states, to the point where his ‘spirituality’ has become a theoretical non relevant state of being, exacerbated by such errors as the misrepresentation of Romans 7 as being an example of the Christian condition/position, so that sinning is accepted as the normal position of all men, Christians not exempt.

But the logical understanding of scripture, from both the O.T. and N.T. suggests that it is the WHOLE PERSON that is changed, from the character of the natural ‘beast’ to the changed character of Christ indwelling the person and forming the basis for his mortal body to be changed to immortal.

The body containing all of the natural elements of creation, is itself changed to conformity with the nature of Jesus, BY the nature of Jesus, in the form of His SPIRIT.

The body itself is represented in scripture as the PROMISED LAND. This body becomes the “SEED” from which the NEW “spiritual body” is obtained. So just as we see man being “resurrected” with Christ in THIS life, and ‘risen with Him into heaven’ in THIS life, so too do we see the man in/of Christ as being a “NEW CREATION” or “NEW CREATURE”.

EVERYTHING of course is “by faith”, so the new position we take up, the new creation we become, the “be transformed by the RENEWAL of your mind”, all speaks of an ACTUAL CHANGE of the human condition from natural to SUPER natural.

It is this ACTUAL, REAL, LITERAL change which sets the scene for the ‘impossible miracle’ of the recovery of man from death to OCCUR when Christ returns “on the last day”.

So this change takes place by and through the ACTION OF FAITH, which means the REAL alteration of the thought processes in man, and consequently then his resultant ACTIONS.

This change is LITERAL. “Participation in the DIVINE NATURE” is LITERAL. The “FIRST RESURRECTION” OF JESUS IS LITERAL, and then by faith it also becomes in us LITERAL IN THIS LIFE, this ‘faith body’ is ready and primed for the second coming of Jesus.

It is because this first resurrection is LITERAL both in Jesus AND in His followers, that the accepted chronological position of it in this highly metaphoric VISION of revelation that John saw, must defer to the more immediate relevancy of the reality of this “first resurrection” occurring in believers, thus displacing the accepted “literal” view of it as being just the first of two resurrections in the “literal” future.

The context of the scripture is plainly that “those who take part in the FIRST RESURRECTION” and “NOT BEING HARMED BY THE SECOND DEATH” refers to Christians who by faith participate in the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. They LITERALLY become new creations in Him, just not yet REVEALED as such until Christ returns, yet and even so, CURRENTLY MANIFESTED to an unbelieving, spiritually blind race of people, unable to perceive this ACTUAL ‘new race’ of NEW CREATURES in Christ.

UNLESS this NEW SEED is REAL AND LITERAL, NEITHER will the INTEGRITY of the new body that it promises, be literal.

ANY MAN IN CHRIST IS A NEW CREATION [1922]

Due to covid I am composing writing with pen and paper instead of the keyboard, which may cause some change in the creative flow, but we will see……The old is gone, the new is come…the quote continues?

In the previous post I raised questions as to the literality of the book of Revelation, not meaning that this book did not exist, nor that its content had no validity, but just that the imagery it used was not in itself, LITERAL. I.E. it was not “Real”, there would be no actual beast rising up out of the sea etc, but that such images only REPRESENTED some supposed reality or other.

This was in response to another prior post seeking to correctly present the context and meaning of the “First Resurrection”, so that it was not incorrectly placed within the structure of this extremely prophetic book of IMAGERY in the way that most people have done as a result of reading it as LITERAL.

This could be compared with the ‘6 days of creation of the earth’ or with the AGE of the earth as to the question of literality.

But we have to be able to see what scripture is saying, and the simplicity of it all hinges around the problem of man’s mortality, and then the solution of his immortality, and it all focuses on his BODY, which scripture states to be the very hope of mankind’s salvation.

The ‘competition’ exists between man’s human existence versus his spiritual existence. The problem is that man has decided to separate these two states, to the point where his ‘spirituality’ has become a theoretical non relevant state of being, exacerbated by such errors as the misrepresentation of Romans 7 as being an example of the Christian condition/position, so that sinning is accepted as the normal position of all men, Christians not exempt.

But the logical understanding of scripture, from both the O.T. and N.T. suggests that it is the WHOLE PERSON that is changed, from the character of the natural ‘beast’ to the changed character of Christ indwelling the person and forming the basis for his mortal body to be changed to immortal.

The body containing all of the natural elements of creation, is itself changed to conformity with the nature of Jesus, BY the nature of Jesus, in the form of His SPIRIT.

The body itself is represented in scripture as the PROMISED LAND. This body becomes the “SEED” from which the NEW “spiritual body” is obtained. So just as we see man being “resurrected” with Christ in THIS life, and ‘risen with Him into heaven’ in THIS life, so too do we see the man in/of Christ as being a “NEW CREATION” or “NEW CREATURE”.

EVERYTHING of course is “by faith”, so the new position we take up, the new creation we become, the “be transformed by the RENEWAL of your mind”, all speaks of an ACTUAL CHANGE of the human condition from natural to SUPER natural.

It is this ACTUAL, REAL, LITERAL change which sets the scene for the ‘impossible miracle’ of the recovery of man from death to OCCUR when Christ returns “on the last day”.

So this change takes place by and through the ACTION OF FAITH, which means the REAL alteration of the thought processes in man, and consequently then his resultant ACTIONS.

This change is LITERAL. “Participation in the DIVINE NATURE” is LITERAL. The “FIRST RESURRECTION” OF JESUS IS LITERAL, and then by faith it also becomes in us LITERAL IN THIS LIFE, this ‘faith body’ is ready and primed for the second coming of Jesus.

It is because this first resurrection is LITERAL both in Jesus AND in His followers, that the accepted chronological position of it in this highly metaphoric VISION of revelation that John saw, must defer to the more immediate relevancy of the reality of this “first resurrection” occurring in believers, thus displacing the accepted “literal” view of it as being just the first of two resurrections in the “literal” future.

The context of the scripture is plainly that “those who take part in the FIRST RESURRECTION” and “NOT BEING HARMED BY THE SECOND DEATH” refers to Christians who by faith participate in the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. They LITERALLY become new creations in Him, just not yet REVEALED as such until Christ returns, yet and even so, CURRENTLY MANIFESTED to an unbelieving, spiritually blind race of people, unable to perceive this ACTUAL ‘new race’ of NEW CREATURES in Christ.

UNLESS this NEW SEED is REAL AND LITERAL, NEITHER will the INTEGRITY of the new body that it promises, be literal.

IF YOU ABOLISH DEATH IN YOURSELF, GOD PROMISES TO MAKE IT PERMANENT [1875a]

God has proclaimed that only life matters, that death is of no consequence other than as the unfortunate by-product of creation, as “co-lateral damage”.

So while we read that “Those who are His have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires”, we know this does not mean that such self abasement is achievable by self effort, but by faith in Christ’s achievement of it on our behalf.

That yes, it may be a matter of man now exercising the will he never had before, but that will is now directed towards BELIEVING that Jesus accomplished it for US so we also could acquire His Spirit of life, now that he has vanquished death.

Since Jesus has proclaimed that “he who believes in Me will never see death” we know he is talking about the final, “Second Death”, about all and any death, and that only life applies to those who believe in Him. And of course, that life ONLY applies to them that believe, in Him.

That the life you gain by believing, is of an eternal nature and will never be removed, it will last forever.

What happens is that His Spirit will change you, and that change in you will appear when you come under scrutiny on “the last day”, apart from the scrutiny you will be under from the Spirit as you proceed through life.

Christians have already accepted the judgement which is in Christ, and so are released from it. When the fire of the Second Death comes, they will simply be further refined as their Spirit changed bodies assume immortality, whereas the bodies of non-believers who have not been changed by the Spirit of life, of Jesus; will be completely burned away. Jesus said “You will never get out until you have paid the last penny”, so there IS a “getting out” but that will be of no comfort at the time.

There is no further judgement necessary, because when you are resurrected you will either experience a resurrection of life, or a resurrection of death, because you will be resurrected in God’s environment, the one you should have been changing into while you lived on earth, and if you have not been changed from only physical nature and into spiritual nature, there will be no compatibility with Him or His environment.

Only those who have accepted His offer through Jesus to become compatible with His Spirit nature will be compatible with it’s fire, that which is of incompatibility will be burned. No books need to be opened, no records be kept, because you will be what you are, as you are. “Love keeps no record of wrongs” so if you are not of His love, there WILL be a record of wrongs as written in your body and in your heart.

It is the resurrection of the body that is the Christian hope, regardless of what some might say. So it is the body which is in itself the accumulated recording of who and what you are, or have become. You, your body, who you are, will be that which testifies against yourself on the day when He returns in fire to bring all things to a conclusion.

Be found in Him, and He in you, and be not of yourself but of your new self which is Himself in you.

[2 Tim.1:10 “He has abolished death…”]

IF YOU ABOLISH DEATH IN YOURSELF, GOD PROMISES TO MAKE IT PERMANENT [1875]

God has proclaimed that only life matters, that death is of no consequence other than as the unfortunate by-product of creation, as “co-lateral damage”.

So while we read that “Those who are His have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires”, we know this does not mean that such self abasement is achievable by self effort, but by faith in Christ’s achievement of it on our behalf.

That yes, it may be a matter of man now exercising the will he never had before, but that will is now directed towards BELIEVING that Jesus accomplished it for US so we also could acquire His Spirit of life, now that he has vanquished death.

Since Jesus has proclaimed that “he who believes in Me will never see death” we know he is talking about the final, “Second Death”, about all and any death, and that only life applies to those who believe in Him. And of course, that life ONLY applies to them that believe, in Him.

That the life you gain by believing, is of an eternal nature and will never be removed, it will last forever.

What happens is that His Spirit will change you, and that change in you will appear when you come under scrutiny on “the last day”, apart from the scrutiny you will be under from the Spirit as you proceed through life.

Christians have already accepted the judgement which is in Christ, and so are released from it. When the fire of the Second Death comes, they will simply be further refined as their Spirit changed bodies assume immortality, whereas the bodies of non-believers who have not been changed by the Spirit of life, of Jesus; will be completely burned away. Jesus said “You will never get out until you have paid the last penny”, so there IS a “getting out” but that will be of no comfort at the time.

There is no further judgement necessary, because when you are resurrected you will either experience a resurrection of life, or a resurrection of death, because you will be resurrected in God’s environment, the one you should have been changing into while you lived on earth, and if you have not been changed from only physical nature and into spiritual nature, there will be no compatibility with Him or His environment.

Only those who have accepted His offer through Jesus to become compatible with His Spirit nature will be compatible with it’s fire, that which is of incompatibility will be burned. No books need to be opened, no records be kept, because you will be what you are, as you are. “Love keeps no record of wrongs” so if you are not of His love, there WILL be a record of wrongs as written in your body and in your heart.

It is the resurrection of the body that is the Christian hope, regardless of what some might say. So it is the body which is in itself the accumulated recording of who and what you are, or have become. You, your body, who you are, will be that which testifies against yourself on the day when He returns in fire to bring all things to a conclusion.

Be found in Him, and He in you, and be not of yourself but of your new self which is Himself in you.

[2 Tim.1:10 “He has abolished death…”]

WHY SO MUCH EMPHASIS IS PLACED ON OUR BODIES [1828a]

“Present your bodies a living sacrifice”. There are many scriptures concerning the sanctification of our mortal bodies, that our bodies are not only the mortal physical device by which to house a possibly God oriented Spirit, but are part and parcel of ‘the whole deal’ about that which is to be made new.

The Christian hope is stated to lie in the resurrection of our mortal bodies, to immortality. This is because although we like to separate the thought of our bodies from our spirit, our bodies are part and parcel of that which is to be resurrected, that “love keeps no record of wrongs” is because there is no need to keep any records because the person themselves, in themselves have become that record of who and what they are up to the time of death. Our very being in the form of our bodies and all that goes with them, is the actual record of who we are, what we have done, what we have become.

We have either remained unchanged, or we have become changed through faith in God through Jesus.

Rom.8:11 says that God will give life to our mortal bodies. While that could be said to be referring to the resurrection, of the immortality of the new body, it more likely refers to the new life which the body is given IN ORDER that it be transformed in this life, to the image of His Son.

“But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you“. The sanctifying work of the Spirit that prepares us and makes us fit for the “kingdom of God”.

So although judgement has already taken place through Jesus in the form of separating those who believe from those who do not; that judgement has already occurred for them; the actual judgement will be in the form of the resurrection which is the transformation of the physical to the Spiritual. If the person has no spiritual value which can be transformed by resurrection into Spiritual life, then the application of the transforming process will result in no spiritual outcome, other than the recognition and destruction of spiritual death. (This is the “Second Death”). This means that what the person was, what they are in their physical mortal body, has not contained anything compatible with God’s Spirit. Their mortal body which contains no spiritual value, cannot continue to exist in the Spiritual world.

The body therefore, though yes, being the vehicle of the Spirit, is also that substance on which the Spirit works to bring it in line with the new creation coming up, it has to be made part of that new creation even before the new creation itself appears. In fact, Spiritual life in men should be the sign of that new creation, even while they are still in the OLD creation. This is a mark of the hope that believers hold for their future existence, it is their faith in action. Not only is their mind transformed and renewed, this life of the Spirit also affects every part of the mortal creature that we are, so that healing of the body is not only possible, but expected.

So it is the resurrected person who in the whole nature of their being as a physical entity in their submission to God, who is subjected to the cleansing and purging nature of the Spirit fire of God, both now in sanctification and then in consummation. It is a NEW BODY that we hope for.

[To present your whole body blameless etc.]

See Romans 8:23.

WHY SO MUCH EMPHASIS IS PLACED ON OUR BODIES [1828]

“Present your bodies a living sacrifice”. There are many scriptures concerning the sanctification of our mortal bodies, that our bodies are not only the mortal physical device by which to house a possibly God oriented Spirit, but are part and parcel of ‘the whole deal’ about that which is to be made new.

The Christian hope is stated to lie in the resurrection of our mortal bodies, to immortality. This is because although we like to separate the thought of our bodies from our spirit, our bodies are part and parcel of that which is to be resurrected, that “love keeps no record of wrongs” is because there is no need to keep any records because the person themselves, in themselves have become that record of who and what they are up to the time of death. Our very being in the form of our bodies and all that goes with them, is the actual record of who we are, what we have done, what we have become.

We have either remained unchanged, or we have become changed through faith in God through Jesus.

Rom.8:11 says that God will give life to our mortal bodies. While that could be said to be referring to the resurrection, of the immortality of the new body, it more likely refers to the new life which the body is given IN ORDER that it be transformed in this life, to the image of His Son.

“But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you“. The sanctifying work of the Spirit that prepares us and makes us fit for the “kingdom of God”.

So although judgement has already taken place through Jesus in the form of separating those who believe from those who do not; that judgement has already occurred for them; the actual judgement will be in the form of the resurrection which is the transformation of the physical to the Spiritual. If the person has no spiritual value which can be transformed by resurrection into Spiritual life, then the application of the transforming process will result in no spiritual outcome, other than the recognition and destruction of spiritual death. (This is the “Second Death”). This means that what the person was, what they are in their physical mortal body, has not contained anything compatible with God’s Spirit. Their mortal body which contains no spiritual value, cannot continue to exist in the Spiritual world.

The body therefore, though yes, being the vehicle of the Spirit, is also that substance on which the Spirit works to bring it in line with the new creation coming up, it has to be made part of that new creation even before the new creation itself appears. In fact, Spiritual life in men should be the sign of that new creation, even while they are still in the OLD creation. This is a mark of the hope that believers hold for their future existence, it is their faith in action. Not only is their mind transformed and renewed, this life of the Spirit also affects every part of the mortal creature that we are, so that healing of the body is not only possible, but expected.

So it is the resurrected person who in the whole nature of their being as a physical entity in their submission to God, who is subjected to the cleansing and purging nature of the Spirit fire of God, both now in sanctification and then in consummation. It is a NEW BODY that we hope for.

[To present your whole body blameless etc.]

DID JESUS BEAR OUR SIN OR HIS OWN? [1723a]

He bore our sins only in the sense of having a common humanity with us and then “bearing” the result of that common humanity, which is DEATH. So what does that have to do with us? It does, because He came back to share with us the result of His effort, which was the Spirit of His new person, the immortalised and resurrected Spirit of Christ, this now POWERFUL and victorious SPIRIT OF LIFE, HOLY SPIRIT, that was now a complete gift to us in the form of His returned Spirit to us, as demonstrated at Pentecost.

He Himself knew no sin, had committed no sin, yet because He inhabited the same body as ours, He who knew what was in the very nature of that body, was able to confront it and overwhelm it with His own righteous Spirit, yet not without suffering, anguish and pain, both mental and physical. The unrighteousness that we are in our fleshly makeup was confronted in His own body by the righteousness that He was in His Spirit, and after much trauma, He won the victory over that which was not of God, restoring it to its correct place in our body and mind, His body the type of which He shared with us, in HIS body and mind.

This is why it is important to recognise that “Christ had come in the flesh”, OUR kind of flesh, because otherwise this repair work could not be done and the final product as per the original design intention could not be satisfied. Now that it has been satisfied in Him, it can also be satisfied in US, not by directly recreating what He has done but by FAITH, by a BELIEF, INSTALLING THAT SAME VICTORY OF THOUGHT PROCESSES INSIDE US ALSO. Actually in effect, installing HIM in US.

Laws could never recreate in us that perfect creation of design, only that which grabbed the imagination of the heart could ever do that, so it would take all that man was possible of envisioning as being possible for God to do for him to effect that recreation, and now, new creation, ultimate creation, by the vision of the power of God’s own nature, in his love for that creation as demonstrated by His Son on the cross, and the liberation of His Son as the first born of it.

We also can find liberation of spirit as we engage with Him and His Spirit, with the Son of His love. This is why it has to be by faith, because nothing but all that He can recreate in us will be sufficient to bring it about, our dedication to Him even as He is dedicated to us. Eternal life in the perfect existence, the production of a new perfect body in a new perfect world. And the reason for it all is love.

DID JESUS BEAR OUR SIN OR HIS OWN? [1723]

He bore our sins only in the sense of having a common humanity with us and then “bearing” the result of that common humanity, which is DEATH. So what does that have to do with us? It does, because He came back to share with us the result of His effort, which was the Spirit of His new person, the immortalised and resurrected Spirit of Christ, this now POWERFUL and victorious SPIRIT OF LIFE, HOLY SPIRIT, that was now a complete gift to us in the form of His returned Spirit to us, as demonstrated at Pentecost.

He Himself knew no sin, had committed no sin, yet because He inhabited the same body as ours, He who knew what was in the very nature of that body, was able to confront it and overwhelm it with His own righteous Spirit, yet not without suffering, anguish and pain, both mental and physical. The unrighteousness that we are in our fleshly makeup was confronted in His own body by the righteousness that He was in His Spirit, and after much trauma, He won the victory over that which was not of God, restoring it to its correct place in our body and mind, His body the type of which He shared with us, in HIS body and mind.

This is why it is important to recognise that “Christ had come in the flesh”, OUR kind of flesh, because otherwise this repair work could not be done and the final product as per the original design intention could not be satisfied. Now that it has been satisfied in Him, it can also be satisfied in US, not by directly recreating what He has done but by FAITH, by a BELIEF, INSTALLING THAT SAME VICTORY OF THOUGHT PROCESSES INSIDE US ALSO. Actually in effect, installing HIM in US.

Laws could never recreate in us that perfect creation of design, only that which grabbed the imagination of the heart could ever do that, so it would take all that man was possible of envisioning as being possible for God to do for him to effect that recreation, and now, new creation, ultimate creation, by the vision of the power of God’s own nature, in his love for that creation as demonstrated by His Son on the cross, and the liberation of His Son as the first born of it.

We also can find liberation of spirit as we engage with Him and His Spirit, with the Son of His love. This is why it has to be by faith, because nothing but all that He can recreate in us will be sufficient to bring it about, our dedication to Him even as He is dedicated to us. Eternal life in the perfect existence, the production of a new perfect body in a new perfect world. And the reason for it all is love.