HOW TO GET UNSAVED [298]

“Those” people knock on the door. The tele-evangelist is doing his thing, the latest hot-shot charismatic person is in town, or some “healer” from somewhere.

While you may admire their enthusiasm and persistence, don’t listen to their words if they are saying that you have to join their group, or meet on a certain day, or change Jesus to Yashua, or to follow the law of Moses. (Or not eat certain foods). Not to have blood transfusions. Or that there are various conditions to be met before you can be saved, other than the obvious life giving belief through forgiveness of sin.

Because if you do, you may be in danger of losing your salvation, which is based on your confidence in the love God has for you as displayed in Jesus.

6 thoughts on “HOW TO GET UNSAVED [298]

  1. This writing is very strange in the light of you complaining to certain denominations which teach the Biblical Truth that people received for free the Gift of Salvation but have to do their best to enter the Kingdom of God.

    In certain postings you say everybody by the death of Christ is saved as has to do nothing any more, whilst hear you even claim they can loose salvation.

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    • From a Jewish viewpoint I admit it would be strange. [my comment here is not to be taken in isolation, it is a result of several comments made by Immanuel over several posts] I will say to Immanuel however, that truth is very tight and narrow, hence the “narrow gate” mentioned by others in recent commenting. Where that narrow truth impacts on religious beliefs, there will be some conflict of interest.

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  3. For those who say people have nothing to do any more because they are saved, how do the ministers who preach such “no works” any more with their sermons about eternal damnation?

    Can you explain you yourself also writing “you may be in danger of losing your salvation” when at other places you claim nobody has to do any works, which would mean we can sleep on two ears, because we are all saved, believers and non believers in God or other gods.

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    • Hi Immanuel. Thanks for your comment. Firstly I want to say that because we have “talked” before, I have previously mentioned that language may be a problem. There are such things as “nuance” and “Hyperbole” that a writer may employ, and there may also be “bias” “prejudice” etc. on the part of both a writer and a reader. Sometimes things are written differently to get a point across. Opinion can be aggressive or passive, particularly perhaps where we are dealing with religious differences. But I am happy to attempt to answer your questions honestly and truthfully.
      SO – When people talk about “no works”, they are saying that there is nothing you can do to be “saved”. That is, there is no “work of the law” or any good work that can make you acceptable to God. (because all are condemned by sin). It is not referring to the “good works” that come out of the regenerated heart of a “saved” person. NEXT PART. Again, there is no intention to suggest that the regenerated person should not be producing good works, things that come out of a cleansed heart that now is a loving one, and unimpeded by condemnation, is able to move forward into the good things of God. Because you see, they have made the quantum leap into God, and their ongoing rejuvenation is as a result of being IN him, and he in them. They are not trying (works) to gain favour with God by growing into him by the accumulation of knowledge about him. This creation is dead, it needs a death and a rebirth by the Spirit that he freely gives, to restart what are truly the life processes he has given and initiates. It has to be received as a gift, and it has to be received as a little child, not as some sort of intellectual exercise or misplaced zeal. NEXT PART. The “all saved” does not mean that all are instantly “saved”. It means that God has saved all people in the sense that he has removed their obligation to stay dead. He has removed the power of sin to oppress and condemn, because He has forgiven it. He has removed it. His forgiveness is what we see on the cross because love suffers the transgressions of the natural creation in order to bring in, to enable, the new creation, which comes from the ONE MAN Jesus who is the firstborn (and I suppose the only “naturally” born) person who will (for the purpose of explanation) ever “rightfully” be immortalised. NEXT PART. By “losing salvation” I mean that if people allow themselves to be talked into what is false, then where that falseness affects their complete reliance on the love of God and only the love of God (as seen in Jesus) to effect their salvation, then they will be in danger of losing it.
      In the scripture is mentioned the somewhat hypothetical case of “the believer whose works do not stand”. This would refer to one who had honestly accepted Jesus as their saviour but for some reason was unable to “perform” what would be normal acts of love that would outwork from their Godly (loving, forgiving,) nature. It is hypothetical to show that salvation is by rebirth and not by works. In practice, it says that they would be saved, but only as “those escaping through the flames”. (The subject of man’s works that one is “examined” for, are probably better described as “the fruit of the Spirit”, which is the driving force for those works to occur). COMMENT. Broadly, God has forgiven all, because they are simply the product of a dead creation, and he wants a live creation. By “forgiven” in this explanation I mean that Christ died for all, and this WAS the forgiveness towards men. Whether they ACCEPT that forgiveness or not is up to them. [So it is not that all men are “saved”]

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